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Comment on Hot debate in council over youth curfew, public stays away by Steve Brown.

I have never read an article that has given me a more sickening sense of shame. Shame at the pettiness, shame at the shear stupidity, and shame at the completely compassionless betrayal of a town and its children by its so called representatives. Of course a curfew isn’t “the” answer to everything, it’s simply a tool to both assist and force our various agencies to deal with a problem that they, and now our aldermen, refuse to address. I am completely gob-smacked by Sandy Taylor’s closing quote: “Those most in need of Social Support are those most likely to be subject to a curfew and most likely to fail its conditions.” Well what can I say “Ah Derrr, Sandy”.
That is and always was the intention of a curfew! Those that are good citizens and who obey the law do as it commands and stay off the street. So that means the ones on the streets are the ones you want to deal with! The ones without parental control or without a home!
Of course they’re the focus of the curfew, that’s the whole bloody point of the curfew isn’t it?
But what absolutely disgusts me is the willingness of our councillors to put petty hates and jealousy above the welfare of our town and more importantly above the welfare of our children.
Jane Clark actually wants proof that our problem with youth exists! This despite the thousands of articles, radio and TV commentary, a flowing conversation of admissions by police and other agencies reports such as Little Children are Sacred, millions of dollars poured by a very reluctant government into various agencies to address the issue, not to mention of course the literally thousands of reported crimes, bashings and break-ins inflicted on the poor citizens of this town.
Even the Prime Minister knows about it but not apparently Jane Clark!
What an arrogant disgusting insult to the citizens of this town who have lived with the daily trauma created by this problem for years.
Oh, and you don’t think it’s that bad anymore? It’s dropped by 15% apparently in the past few months. That’s fantastic, is it? That means the rate is now only up by about 485% over the past eight years – we really are going places aren’t we!
And somewhere in there you talked about a more intelligent sophisticated solution! So where is it? Where was all the work on that? I think for a bunch of petty squabbling councillors the idea of an intelligent solution may well be the perfect working example of an oxymoron with the emphasis on the word moron.
The facts are you undermined and ridiculed this motion because of your petty dislike for new chum Eli Melky, and if that’s not bad enough, you did it without any empathy, compassion or regard for the kids who roam and give up their lives to the streets at night.
You did it without any respect or regard for the citizenry of the town, many of whom spend sleepless nights in terror of being victimised by these kids, and you did it without any respect for the position you hold. As a person who has put an enormous amount of time into backing many of you, who worked very hard at getting you there in the first place, as a person who talked you up when many others thought you were crap, I now feel a real sense of shame that you have allowed yourselves to become so compromised that you can no longer see the woods for the trees.
And you can’t see your way through lies, deceit and bullying to a position of moral decency. So in the years to come when hopefully all this is behind us, and some person or other asks what it was you did as a councillor to help save the kids on the streets back in 2011, you’ll be able to answer with great an absolute clarity: “I DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.”

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Hot debate in council over youth curfew, public stays away
John, my initial response was an admittedly angry rebuke to aldermen, some of whom I hold in great respect, over behavior that has emerged regarding Eli Melky. The intensity of the dislike the aggressive bullying intolerance is really deplorable especially when some seem quite willing to sacrifice long held beliefs in order to attack him.
My comments come not just from the article but from what I have observed first hand both at Council and through a good many conversations with a number of aldermen.
While council is playing petty one-upmanship games, people – many of them children – are hurting. Of course council doesn’t control law and order but a well respected council can and should be an enormous influence on government decisions.
That means making strong, visionary, useful points to government, then having the intestinal fortitude to stand behind those decisions. What Alice doesn’t want is a cringing, ingratiating, cannibalistic council that may raise plenty of eyebrows within government, but generate precious little respect.
Furthermore and finally, what Alice’s needs is a council that represents its citizens not the glorious careers of aldermen. The recent criticism of Action for Alice by some in council raises many questions about just who councillors think they are and who they think they represent.
The membership of Action for Alice during peak moments of the town’s anxiety earlier this year bordered on 500, mostly businesses. That, John, is a huge majority of local business! Our wealth generators and our employers!
[ED – Time to move on the the next subject, gentlemen!]


Hot debate in council over youth curfew, public stays away
Yeh! John, you have the audacity to talk about the “debate”. Debate is for people with both ideas and open minds, given your contribution has been a never ending spiel of Labor Party propaganda and its pathetic justifications you obviously have neither. You’ve maintained your unquestioning support for the Territory Government and the Labor Party even though it’s demonstrably against the wishes of, or the interests of, a massive majority of this town’s population. I think the Labor Vote is somewhere around 20% isn’t it? Why is that John?
You still thinking of putting your hand up for the Labor Party at the next election? I personally can’t think of a good reason why you shouldn’t. Your leadership skills and achievements absolutely match the criteria.
So why is Eli, “the new kid on the block”, at forefront of attempts to do something about our youth problem?
Where is what should by now your very well developed policy? Could it possibly be that this problem has escalated year by year on your watch and you don’t have one? How long have you been in council now John?
Let me help you, you’ve been there long enough to have put into effect all the answers you think you have. How long do you think you would need before you came up with any kind of solution or even produced an attempt at a solution – another 10 years? You seem to be able to produce a remarkable spiel of reasons as to why we shouldn’t do anything or why something won’t work. Yet we never see from you as an individual or Council as a whole any kind of leading the way.
You say you came up with some good policy as part of the other night’s discussion, so where is it? Where are the motions? The facts are that your intent the other night was aimed solely a shooting down the new chums’ motion. It was in fact part of the pathetic bullying power game that been running against any alderman who has the temerity to put a motion that could be construed as being critical of, or outside the policy of the Territory Government. This week gutted stance not only lets down the citizenry of Alice who rightfully expect that aldermen should stand up and vigorously represent their point of view, but as with all policies of appeasement, it has made our council a laughing stock on matters of public policy. It results in our town’s opinions being completely disregarded by a Territory Government that always bases its decisions for Alice on minimizing input. As for the rest of your points, John, perhaps you should have read a little more closely my strong language was directed at behavior not individuals and John, I don’t think you have to support a curfew as long as you have an alternative response.
One which doesn’t involve DOING NOTHING AT ALL! Which, by the way, is now the position of Council since your rejection of Ald Melky’s motion obviously does away with the council’s previously held stance of supporting a curfew.
Gutter Politics John? You mean like those who play the “race card”, use it as an excuse to do “nothing”! Even though the result is the absolute victimisation and destruction of those they pretend to protect! Would you like to give us a run down on just how well Aboriginal Centralians have done while people like you have been arguing for separate and different treatment? People argue that, John, because they don’t have the guts or the basic human decency to do the right thing by these kids no matter what their race!
They do it because they’re scared of being accused of being “racist”, and you know what, John? That in itself is a blatant racist and uncaring act! Where else but in the gutter would I speak to someone like that?


Recent Comments by Steve Brown

Pine Gap and the Nobel prize the Oz government ignores
Kind of odd that your Dad didn’t note after escaping the Germans that the only thing that stood between him and the Japanese was the strength and commitment of the USA. Or perhaps he arrived after the work was done and failed, like yourself Russell, to acknowledge those who did that work.
Those who sacrificed their lives, bringing about the “peace” that you seem think you have some claim on.
Peace is brought about by strength, Russell, not by cringing appeasement or for that matter by dirty unemployed blow ins climbing on the fences of our nation’s defences! Acting Russell for those who would tear us down, not for peace!
People in general across the world, including Americans, want and strive for peace, Russell. Funnily enough they actually do not like or appreciate the efforts of so called peace activists, in attempting to break down their positions of strength, because, Russell, those who read history, who understand human nature, know that only the strong find peace and hold it only while they remain strong.
Just as we have seen with North Korea, years of cringing appeasement instead of an early strong stance has led to escalation allowing the creation of a nuclear armed rouge state! A threat to the entire world!
The only thing that will bring North Korea to the negotiating table, Russell, is if they truly believe America is intent on attacking them.
That makes Donald Trump the most likely person to bring about peace! Try not to choke, lunatic lefties!
In the event Korea can’t be forced to disarm all the peace activist in the world hanging on fences all around the world will not make the slightest difference to Kim Jong-un unless of course they succeed in weakening the American position which of course would leave a laughing Kim Jong-un free to wreak havoc and mayhem upon the world. Because that, Russel, will be thee inevitable outcome.
Look back through your history books and see how long appeasement has ever kept a bully at bay.
Appeasement escalates!
It is not the road to peace it is the road to war!
Yes that’s scary, you’ve a right to be afraid, but don’t worry just as they have on every occasion before someone else will stand up for you and you better hope like hell that those Yanks you love to sling off at, are among them, or we, Russell, all of us, are in bloody big trouble!
Wisdom tells us that its not a particularly smart idea to bite the hand that feeds you. I can absolutely assure you that neither is it a particularly smart idea to bite the hand of the only nation that stands between you and annihilation!
America and Americans have stood beside us Aussies through thick and thin they have shed countless lives to protect us as we in turn have done for them.
They are our brothers and sisters defenders of western democracy at all costs and they have been a great big fantastic contributor to the town of Alice Springs, a huge rewarding contributing part of our community, for some 50 years!
A contribution that vastly exceeds the very questionable contribution of a few disaffected peace activists whose true intent was tearing our society down. Yes, the left over rejects of the failed Communist era.


Master plan for town, reconciliation plan for Australia Day
More divisive green party identity politics…
Just making sure those Aboriginals are separated out from the rest, nothing wrong with apartheid if you’re on the right concerned and well meaning side of it.
Aboriginal Aussies need to be reminded every day of their isolation and victim status, especially the kids, can’t have them thinking they’re just like everybody else, equal to the rest of us.
We can easily achieve this goal by flying separate flags, can’t have Aboriginal people thinking of themselves as equal partners in the Australian Nation! “Not one of the mob”! If we allow that how are we going to justify speaking for them, patronising them, creating wonderful government programs at huge expense to look after them? “Yes”, of course at a small fee, Greens have to live too. This is all for their own good, they are victims you know….
Yes all of the above is to be read with dripping sarcasm.
Segregation, Paternalism, Apartheid are our enemy not our friend, deeds done in another race’s name not at their request is what’s known as Paternalism or being Paternalistic. It is the most vile and the most destructive of all forms of racism, it steals away other people’s souls, their identity, their equality and their lives!
Yep, that’s Green Party politics.
Anzac Hill belongs to all of us.
it is there to represent and commemorate the Nations War dead it was given over by the TO’S specifically for just that purpose. We should recognise and respect that dedication.
Anzac hill represents the Nation that means all Australians regardless of race, in this place we are one! Reconciliation is about helping Aboriginal Australians to be comfortable with, or accepting of, being “part of the mob” it is about forgiveness and moving on! It is not about perpetual isolation!
Extending Apartheid!
Its about being “Equal” and perhaps most importantly, about “feeling equal”!
You do not achieve that outcome by exacerbating division!
By flying separate Flags in a place where we gather as a Nation remembering those who sacrificed their lives for all of us Australians, regardless of our genetics.


Tourism, cattle, mining, oil, gas: The world’s your oyster, Stuart.
I agree with all that you say Scott the real question is what are you going to do about it?
You’re the man in the chair.
Over some 63 years of living and working in the bush I came to understand the aspirations of Aboriginal Centralians – especially the kids are just the same as yours and mine.
No-one wants to be left sitting in the bush condemned to an existence somewhat akin to living museum piece, belittled and patronised while being force fed a hopeless going nowhere culture of victimhood, propagated of course by those with vested interest in the status quo!
Yes, Aboriginal people are aspirational! Of course, they are!
That is the driving force behind the ongoing fight for total equality.
It will allow individuals to be able to be the masters of their own destinies to receive reward for their efforts as individuals. It will allow individual ownership and control of homes of land of royalties, just like other Australians!
Equality will allow those who are aspirational and prepared to get off their backsides and work to benefit from their efforts, as opposed to the present system of community ownership, very like the failed Communists systems where those who did want to get ahead were dragged down by those who couldn’t be bothered.
This must change Scott. Break down the stranglehold of the Land Councils, they are parasitic organisations that simply feed bureaucrats while the average Aboriginal person lives and dies a pauper under their rule.
While I understand this will take a long time to achieve we must begin the conversation, show direction give those with aspiration hope something to strive for.
In the meantime, Scott, we have a more urgent problem: Your Labor Government has only been in for a bit more than a year yet we are already seeing the funds sucked back to the North to feed a luxurious lifestyle of Darwinians at the expense of the regions.
GST revenue intended to benefit and advance the lives of all Territorians are once again benefitting those in the capital, while we simply miss out!
Work is running low in the Centre. Love or hate Adam Giles while he was Chief, we saw more even, fairer distribution of revenue under his rule.
So, what are you going to do about that, Scott, Chansey, Dale?
Not much going on down here and we are relying on your voices at the table.
Which kind of brings me to the larger subject the eternal battle of the regions to gain a fair share of revenue, no matter who’s in Government in the North.
I can’t ever see that changing. Centralians are now even weaker with the loss of a seat.
Unless the people of the regions are prepared to put aside party politics and act as a block supporting whichever side they may choose in Government.
Looking back over a chain of failed [from a regional point of view] governments, it is quite clear that the talent pool of experience long term Territorians who understand and can represent the issues is quite small across all parties.
Given that councils made up of members from all kinds of political backgrounds can work it out and perform their role, maybe it’s about time Territorians outside of Darwin considered the establishment of a regional party which puts aside the normal Labor, Liberal divide, and worked jointly to advance the interest of the regions.
Which of course in the end are also the interests of the capital – healthy productive regions, a booming capital.


Environment: The devil needs to be in the detail
@ Evelyn and Domenico: Don’t know whether you missed it but these comments are published for all to read.
I am waiting with bated breadth for Jimmy to answer the question posed by my comment. The silence to date would tend to say that my information is correct would it not?
Now as for solar power as referred to in this article, I’m really interested in Mr Cocking social conscience and priorities given his run for Mayor.
I would like to know what consequence renewable power policies of the kind Mr Cocking espouses will have on the disadvantaged.
I want to know who comes first in Jimmy’s thinking, people or fanatical climate politics. Just as before, just posing the question.


Environment: The devil needs to be in the detail
It has been passed on to me by several well known political identities that Mr Cocking has been informing those who ask that he openly supports moves by left wing radical councils in Melbourne who are pushing a paternalistic culture of victimhood and inequality in banning Australia day celebrations.
This is flying directly in the face of our own struggle to achieve unity, equality and inclusion!
Alice Springs does not need a deepening of the racial divide based on this style of identity politics. In fact I guarantee that locals are absolutely sick of the stupid divides that have been created around race in our community. We are Centralians Jimmy, tell us how you are going to support that concept, that ideal!
Or are you as has been reported from down there at the booth simply here to divide based on some wider world political philosophy of mutual destruction?


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