Re the question: ‘Have firefighters watched some trees in the …

Comment on Only firefighters decide on how to deal with individual fires by Bob Durnan.

Re the question: ‘Have firefighters watched some trees in the Todd burn?’ and the response from John Kleeman, that this has ‘only [happened] when any further effort to fight the fire would be “to no avail”‘.
Can we have an assurance from Mr Kleeman that, regardless of whatever may have happened in the past, in future firefighters will make attempts, when possible, to douse fires around the base of trees before the trees themselves are alight? From my observations such efforts have not been occurring in at least some instances where they have appeared to be both possible and sensible.
With regards to Mr Kleeman’s later statement that “We have tried blocking them off and filling them up with water but it’s been to no avail. … once that chimneying effect has started, it’s all but impossible to put out.” What he says is undoubtedly true in some instances. On the other hand, private citizens have successfully extinguished some of these ‘smoking chimneys’ by taking the actions Kleeman outlines, on the day after the trees have caught fire, in cases where there is no sign that the firefighters have tried to plug the ‘chimneys’ or douse the smouldering hollows.
Perhaps there is a disconnect between Mr Kleeman’s strong desire to see trees saved, and what is actually happening in some of these cases.

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Would be even more interesting to know what that means.
Exactly what did the grandfathers do to the seniors? Care to tell us, Sue Shearer?


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They are not there for the purpose of policing the outlets, nor for the purpose of proving security for the benefit of the outlets and their customers, although they do some of that incidentally in the course of their main duties.
The reason that police are there is to prevent the trafficking of alcohol by people who have no legitimate place to drink it, and who are intending to drink it in places where it is illegal to do so, such as Aboriginal lands where communities have asked the Liquor Commission to declare areas dry, or town camp leases which the Federal government has declared dry for the wellbeing of vulnerable residents.
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I thought I had seen it advertised for every Wednesday night at 6pm, but this doesn’t appear to be the case?
I have gone there at this time, found it closed, and no notice or info on the door.
Anybody wanna clarify here?


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