@4 Why can’t the Todd be a “wild bush river” …

Comment on Todd River: will we stand by and let the worst happen? by Rod Cramer.

@4 Why can’t the Todd be a “wild bush river” AND open public space in the heart of an urban setting? Get rid of the buffel, couch etc and illegal activities, and the river will do most of the work.
Dredging the Todd will do nothing to help the egress of floods through the Gap, although there may be other reasons for doing it.
There are two primary things that cause the problems at the Gap. Firstly, Spencer and Gillen describe the Heavitree Gap as having sand from cliff face to cliff face. Today close on a third of that width is taken up with a rail and a road embankment (the latter was widened considerably in about 1982-84).
Secondly, the level of the current Heavitree Causeway is at least a metre higher than the original sand bed of the Todd. This has been the case for a similar time. A major upgrade occurred in 1980, and then repaired after the 1983 flood.
While there are some future issues with removing fallen timber from the Todd, it should not be for any one person’s interpretation of aesthetics (perhaps we need a blunt reminder of what we’ve lost). For example, the Casino causeway, installed in dubious circumstances in the same era, increases local flood levels, and any debris (including fallen timber) upstream of it can increase this problem dramatically.
The obvious logical answers are to remove/rectify the causes, which are definitely not sand and fallen timber.

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Todd River: will we stand by and let the worst happen?
@3 No, it doesn’t follow, and no, it wouldn’t. Any small boy playing in the mud could work that out. All it might do, is reduce the extra time (measured in seconds) it would take for the water to reach your power points.
Go and check out the “biodiversity” in the Todd south of Alice.
I always marvel at the stupidity of landlubbers compared to sailors – the latter learn on about day one that you can’t change the sea. Yet when we are on land we think we can change (“tame”) the land, and all will be right. We are fooled when we make miniscule changes here and there, into thinking it’s good and lasting. It never ever is, and rather than creating a “museum”, we could be helping the country to heal itself, by rectifying the many mistakes we have made.


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