Geoff Booth may see take-away alcohol sales free day/s as …

Comment on Besieged businessman stands for zero tolerance but also calls for more ‘joy and laughter’ by russell guy.

Geoff Booth may see take-away alcohol sales free day/s as “Prohibition” which in the context it is not, but the fact remains that when this measure was successfully introduced in Tennant Creek (Thirsty Thursday), the consumption of pure alcohol decreased by 20% (PAAC Senate Standing Committee Submission. 6/2/12).

Mr Booth is in favour of a floor price, but while the two pubs sell take-away alcohol seven days a week, the consumption (indigenous/non indigenous) he agrees is excessive, is not likely to decrease significantly.

When Thirsty Thursday was removed, consumption increased again by 7/5% in the first year, with accompanying increases in further years (PAAC Senate Standing Committee Submission. 6/2/12).

How much longer does Mr Booth and those whom he supports in the ASCT election, intend to deny its success by electively excusing it as “Prohibition?”

The economic cost of alchol abuse to Territory communities, rate and tax payers is $642m p.a. ($4200 per adult). It seems to me that the additional costs of policing, provision of extensive health services, courts, corrective services, welfare, child neglect, preventable death, and in Mr Booth’s particular case, vandalism etc might make some impression on business people. How can anyone have confidence in their handling of public money?

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Besieged businessman stands for zero tolerance but also calls for more ‘joy and laughter’
Yeah, good one, Steve. Remind me to watch Groundhog Day again, next time I run into you in the Mall.


Besieged businessman stands for zero tolerance but also calls for more ‘joy and laughter’
Steve, the name is Russell. You are so petty to introduce fried foods into the “logic” of excessive alcohol consumption and its ghastly contribution to inequality in this town. Let’s see your analysis of the economic costs and income management program. You’re on the side of anarchy and you can’t perceive that your policies create prohibition. You keep to the one trick of law and order and I’d reckon even the police are tired of it.


Besieged businessman stands for zero tolerance but also calls for more ‘joy and laughter’
Steve, I’ve been reflecting on my response below and I believe I can make it clearer. I said that “the real issue is local leadership” in bringing solutions to the social problems facing Alice Springs, but in clarification, the qualities of those who aspire to it, should bear closer examination.
It appears that you are concerned by the fact that you can’t consume alcohol whenever you want and that includes cheap liquor which has a high level of pure alcohol. As I understand it, the reasoning behind a floor price is to standardise the price per drink at around that of beer – a product medically deemed less harmful than cask wine or “tawny”, for example.
Your reasoning is that “a few” alcoholics have made this difficult and you wish to remove them by “zero tolerance, law and order” policing, thereby bringing them before the courts and prison system, with no stated policy on rehabilitation or child neglect.
You appear opposed to any other method, such as prevention by restricting access to liquor supply and wish to maintain a 24/7 approach to sales, despite the cost to the taxpayer.
Have I got that right?


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The Greens, Labor Party allies, are supposedly environmentally conservative. It used to be that conservative parties were the pariahs.
The bulldozers at Kilgariff are an expression of Terra Nullius if you like, but Australia is a modern, industrialised country now and urban Alice has an economy to grow.
Stagnation is anathema and values are inconvenient.
It would be interesting to discover who enabled the bulldozers to denude the Kilgariff landscape.
Perhaps, that scrap of knowledge may illuminate how the West was lost.


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@ Albert Diano: Thanks for your engagement, Albert.
I encouraged “Local Centralian” to engage with Alex Nelson’s post because Alex is making a similar point to yours.
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