@hal I believe that we need to “do what it takes” …

Comment on Female tourists sleeping in car alleged to have been sexually assaulted: all three suspects now charged, rifle still not recovered. by Ray.

@hal
I believe that we need to “do what it takes” Hal. We need the new council to divert funds from projects or issues that could be put on hold and allocate their funds where they are needed. We need our NT Pollies to step up and help the council in finding grants from the government. If there is a day patrol, night patrol and youth patrol, surely we need to work collaboratively with these organisations that are already funded by us, to enable the bylaws to be enforced. If we need to pay the rangers to work after hours to get the job done, we should expect all tiers of government to find the funding and find a solution. Not finding a solution will mean the beautiful town of Alice Springs will loose its appeal to visitors and locals. There are a lot of people looking at cutting their losses and leaving at the moment.

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Female tourists sleeping in car alleged to have been sexually assaulted: all three suspects now charged, rifle still not recovered.
@Russell “The savings to society, already evident in recidivist statistical data, includes health, policing, court and prison costs, leading to positive future benefits like full-time employment.”
Already evident?? No Russell, crime is so high the police commissioner has been asked by the CM to personally get involved and fix the problem. The Berrimah and Alice Springs prisons are at bursting point, and the number of juveniles in detention are staggering, (the next generation). You are of course right Russell when you question my beliefs when I say I don’t give a S#%t, I really do, but do you really think these habitual drunks care about going to jail or losing their licence? It’s not like they are worried about where their next pay cheque is coming from, or how they are going to pay rent. I asked an old Aboriginal chap recently “why do these kids think they can keep breaking the law?” and was told “they don’t give a f&ck about the your law, they’ll get caught and get to spend time with family”.
Remember the old days when if a kid got brought home by the local sergeant? He’d be more scared about the hiding he’d get from his dad. Nowadays, the father would drag the kid straight to a lawyer to defend him against that “horrible white racist copper bastard”.
Drinking is not the cause of this society, is it a symptom. Unless we look at making all people (ie all races / all Australians) obey the same set of laws that have been developed over centuries, for a civilised society, the next generation will suffer the same fate. We have seen the gently gently approach tried and failed over many many years. As I’ve said previously, I love the concept of social inclusion, but if people want respect and not resentment, they need to understand they have to take responsibility for themselves, and their children.
If you banned driving for one day every week, I am sure you would make a massive difference to the road toll, and you could make a valid point with those stats as well.
Thanks for the discussion though, it has been enjoyable.


Female tourists sleeping in car alleged to have been sexually assaulted: all three suspects now charged, rifle still not recovered.
@Russell. I get pretty sick and tired of being the one that has to make the sacrifice because of all the others who refuse to take responsibility for themselves. If they can’t abide by the rules of this society, go somewhere else. I see no reason I can’t enjoy the right to buy alcohol and drink it responsibly, like I can do in any similarly sized town in this country. All I ever hear from the huggers is that alcohol is evil, and we have to cut our consumption to help the poor unfortunates. I greatly don’t care any more if they drink themselves into a stupor or worse, if you can’t handle the grog, don’t drink! I’ve gotten blotto many times in my youth, and moderated my behaviour as I have grown up. It’s not that hard


Female tourists sleeping in car alleged to have been sexually assaulted: all three suspects now charged, rifle still not recovered.
@2 Rod, I ride through bushland near town regularly. The amount of crap that I see dumped in and around these areas is disgusting. Filthy blankets, often caked in dried blood and shit, surrounded by tins of food, drink containers etc all swarming with flies are becoming a blight on our town. This is occurring more and more regularly. I applaud the council workers for putting their health at risk and collecting this rubbish. I have never had any of my camping gear “stolen” or taken away, because it is all cleaned, and stored in my shed behind the house that I bought from working hard. I am part of the community I choose to live in, and accept that if I want to be a part of this community I will follow by the rules they have in place. If people choose to ignore those rules and it affects my ability to enjoy a lifestyle I should be able to expect, I expect them do be dealt with according to the law / rules.


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Masked cops with assault rifles, but where are the parents?
There is no way a charge like that would ever have a chance of succeeding. This has been discussed many times ad nauseum, and the same old answer comes up.
The necessities of life, food and shelter, are provided. If the kid chooses to not take advantage of that, that’s their choice. That charge is usually reserved for the worst cases of kids locked in cupboards, covered in cockroaches and faeces, emancipated and malnourished.
So you are right, there will probably never be a prosecution on that charge ever, as it is for specific, serious cases of child neglect, not letting little Johnny run amok on the streets at night.
Is this a news report or an editorial / opinion piece? As far as tactical weapons, bear cats and masked operators go? Ha ha, what is the go with the sensationalism of late? Aircraft dumping fuel all over us, gunned up SWAT teams?
Why not use the TRG, they are specifically trained for covert surveillance and they have the specialized tools. A bit like the reports of the intervention when some media made it sound like the army was rolling in with tanks and machine guns, where it was more like skilled defence force personnel in land cruisers assisting with infrastructure.
I appreciate the in depth reporting of issues around town, you really don’t need to follow the other trashy tabloids we get here.
[Hi Ray, The piece is clearly labelled as Comment. I also draw your attention to my response here to “Ged”. Erwin Chlanda, Editor.]


Public money flowing into facility about to be closed
Can’t see it being closed any time soon. The $100m facility in Darwin will only have 12 beds, there needs to be somewhere to put the rest. I reckon at least two years until we see a new one here.


Leaders want town council help to fight youth crime
An intelligence approach would be good. Particularly with the advance of social media and the availability of apps.
Many people could not be bothered calling the 131444 number, hoping it gets answered and then explaining exactly where in Alice Spings the problem is.
Intelligence based policing would involve an app that local coppers on the beat could have that shows situations trending based on how many people report the problem.
Naturally the faster the particular report trends the faster the police could respond.
How many times do you see on Facebook sites like ASCOF multiple people commenting on the same anti social behaviours, and how many of those people have bothered to report it?
A more interactive role using the latest technology would make responses more fluid and possibly more effective.
Mind you, since the Royal Commission came out, I could see the police turning a blind eye to youths on the street, whereas a few years ago they might have called them over for a chat, engaging with them.
Now the amount of red tape involved in any youth interaction will simply too much to bear, so drive on by and pretend you saw nothing. Besides, even if it necessitates an arrest, even less will happen than it did before.


Guilty: unanimous jury verdict for Peace Pilgrim
@ Fred the Philistine: Do you mean neutral like Norway, Belgium and Denmark in 1940?


Call for public to monitor police at bottle shops
I did not really support it, but it has been the only thing that worked. Licencing inspectors will not have the knowlege of the perpetrators to be as effective as the police unfortunately.
As far as out there catching real criminals? Talking to the cops that do it, it seems they are having success in preventing the crimes occurring in the first place.
Getting pissed and belting a woman or child until they require hospitalisation, I believe, is a real crime.
Summer is comming. Take the coppers off the bottle shops, prepare for absolute hell. Thanks to the local coppers for doing this boring, thankless job. You are making a difference.


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