@David and @Rod Can we then look forward to the tabling …

Comment on Female tourists sleeping in car alleged to have been sexually assaulted: all three suspects now charged, rifle still not recovered. by Hal Duell.

@David and @Rod
Can we then look forward to the tabling of your evidence and appropriate apologies and restitution sought from the Alice Springs Town Council? Their public meetings this month (May 2012) are on Monday the 14th and Monday the 28th.
We don’t allow theft from urban drifters, and there is no reason to allow it from Council.

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Female tourists sleeping in car alleged to have been sexually assaulted: all three suspects now charged, rifle still not recovered.
It is so true that we gain nothing by forcing the trouble makers to go elsewhere. If we in Alice Springs adopt that approach, then how can we complain when the remote communities do the same? That is what they are doing with with their problem drinkers, and just look at the mess that attitude is making of the metropolitan areas in the NT.
The same can be said of the recently aired proposal to close the Northside bottle shop. There’s no question that the parking lot over there is almost worthy of being included on the national register of must places to visit, but that is still no excuse to foster their problems onto the rest of us.
We simply have to find a way to live within an agreed set of laws. I don’t see that we have an option. From reports in the local media, 16 of a proposed 18 aboriginal organisations met last week. So did the town council. Are they pooling their ideas? Have they come up with a concerted strategy?
I can only hope they decide to share their hopefully amalgamated thoughts with the rest of us.


Female tourists sleeping in car alleged to have been sexually assaulted: all three suspects now charged, rifle still not recovered.
@David
You are absolutely right. The very survival of Alice Springs is in the balance these days, and that balance will tip one way or another depending on whether or not we, as a community, can find the will to live with agreed laws.
The many residents now calling Alice home include local families and families from around the world, and we all grew up learning different laws around the family hearth. If we are to live together in a functioning community, we must all agree first to acknowledge the need for common laws to bind us together. Then we can start the process of bringing our different laws into alignment.
In the public sphere on our common ground, any law that only applies to one group has to be subservient to laws that apply to all. Unless we do that, civilisation will break down, and incidents such as we saw last week will happen again and again.
Bringing our different laws into alignment is a work in progress. I welcome the appearance of the NT police commissioner in Alice Springs. I am also glad the last Town Council had the foresight to pass an updated list of by-laws governing how we are to act on our common ground.
Respect is crucial. Not just to each other, but to our law makers and to our law enforcers.


Female tourists sleeping in car alleged to have been sexually assaulted: all three suspects now charged, rifle still not recovered.
@David
I dispute that we are dealing with “matters of fact” when discussing whether or not Council “were happy to steal the meager belongings of any countryman camped in the Todd”.
But if I am wrong, and if a theft has occurred, then let’s see or hear the evidence. Otherwise this bandying about of loose talk of theft on an on-line forum is just that – loose talk.
At the time of the council debates on the new by-laws, then Alderman Jane Clark was challenged over whether or not she had made a reference to Council burning blankets. Council vigorously denied doing any such thing. Alderman Clark denied making such a statement, but when asked to apologise to Council by Mayor Ryan at a public meeting, an apology was given.
Without substantiation of the allegations of theft which you and Rod seem to be making, is an apology from the two of you now in order?


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Torrent of toxic Facebook posts after Mall melee
Mr Gunner would do well to remember that the last NT Chief Minister to lose control of the streets in Alice was Martin, and the Intervention followed. Turnbull might have a smoother smile, but he is cast in the same mold.
And Where’s Warren will again wring his hands and cry shame, but the only shame is that he is still there. Go Jacinta! I don’t know if you will be any more effective, but remember this: You cannot do worse.
Also, consider this: There has recently been a national Angst over all the kids in detention in the NT being Indigenous, but then think how many priors each of those kids had to have had before they finally earned detention.
CM Gunner’s answer to the collapse of Alice seems to be to ignore the clearly stated preference of the majority regarding the art gallery and to work with them, but to instead indulge in a swinging big-dick moment. He wants to get real while there is still an Alice to get real over.
And the TOs and their families and friends? To be honest, I think they are scared of their own children. Or perhaps they are scared of each other.
Either way, they sure as hell aren’t doing anything.


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So glad the Ducks of Doom feature. As soon as I get back to Alice I will visit.


At last, public will get a say on Anzac Oval: Town Council
It will be interesting to see if the results of Council’s survey are similar to those published today by our local print newspaper.
Over a two week period it conducted an online poll asking residents of Alice what they thought of plans to use Anzac Oval for an art gallery. The results are unambiguous: From a total of 988 votes, 32.4% said it was a good idea and 67.6% said it wasn’t.
As for the old high school, over to you, Alex Nelson.


Aboriginal-led ‘from the bottom up’: cultural centre
A National Indigenous Cultural Centre is arguably so much more important, nationally, locally, and indigenously(?), than another art gallery. I imagine it would include an important and pertinent section on the birth and development of the Central Australian art movement. This last point alone would obviate the need for a National Indigenous Art Gallery, especially given that all major cities and most of the smaller ones already have their own collection of Indigenous art.
As an aside, do we really imagine that the cities, both large and small, will strip out their own collections to further a gallery in Alice Springs? Will the Museum and Art Gallery of the Northern Territory be sending its rare and priceless collection south to Alice? Of course they won’t.
And for a National Indigenous Cultural Centre to be led and directed by local Indigenous voices, in consultation with other Indigenous voices from around Australia, is only right. Their culture, their land, their choice. Hopefully Gunner and Co will, this time, listen and learn.


Council code of conduct questions not answered in public
Well then, under the theory that where there’s smoke, there’s fire (fresh dung in the farmyard on a cold winter morning notwithstanding), it seems this issue is not going to go away. I do wonder if we’ll ever learn something.
That remains to be seen, given the beauty of Section 81(2C) quoted above. Unless I’m reading it wrong, this seems to say that disciplinary committee meetings are to be held in public unless the disciplinary committee doesn’t want them to. Now that’s a get-out-of-jail card if ever I saw one!
As often quoted in other contexts, “You can’t make this stuff up.”


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