It is so true that we gain nothing by forcing …

Comment on Female tourists sleeping in car alleged to have been sexually assaulted: all three suspects now charged, rifle still not recovered. by Hal Duell.

It is so true that we gain nothing by forcing the trouble makers to go elsewhere. If we in Alice Springs adopt that approach, then how can we complain when the remote communities do the same? That is what they are doing with with their problem drinkers, and just look at the mess that attitude is making of the metropolitan areas in the NT.
The same can be said of the recently aired proposal to close the Northside bottle shop. There’s no question that the parking lot over there is almost worthy of being included on the national register of must places to visit, but that is still no excuse to foster their problems onto the rest of us.
We simply have to find a way to live within an agreed set of laws. I don’t see that we have an option. From reports in the local media, 16 of a proposed 18 aboriginal organisations met last week. So did the town council. Are they pooling their ideas? Have they come up with a concerted strategy?
I can only hope they decide to share their hopefully amalgamated thoughts with the rest of us.

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Female tourists sleeping in car alleged to have been sexually assaulted: all three suspects now charged, rifle still not recovered.
@David
You are absolutely right. The very survival of Alice Springs is in the balance these days, and that balance will tip one way or another depending on whether or not we, as a community, can find the will to live with agreed laws.
The many residents now calling Alice home include local families and families from around the world, and we all grew up learning different laws around the family hearth. If we are to live together in a functioning community, we must all agree first to acknowledge the need for common laws to bind us together. Then we can start the process of bringing our different laws into alignment.
In the public sphere on our common ground, any law that only applies to one group has to be subservient to laws that apply to all. Unless we do that, civilisation will break down, and incidents such as we saw last week will happen again and again.
Bringing our different laws into alignment is a work in progress. I welcome the appearance of the NT police commissioner in Alice Springs. I am also glad the last Town Council had the foresight to pass an updated list of by-laws governing how we are to act on our common ground.
Respect is crucial. Not just to each other, but to our law makers and to our law enforcers.


Female tourists sleeping in car alleged to have been sexually assaulted: all three suspects now charged, rifle still not recovered.
@David
I dispute that we are dealing with “matters of fact” when discussing whether or not Council “were happy to steal the meager belongings of any countryman camped in the Todd”.
But if I am wrong, and if a theft has occurred, then let’s see or hear the evidence. Otherwise this bandying about of loose talk of theft on an on-line forum is just that – loose talk.
At the time of the council debates on the new by-laws, then Alderman Jane Clark was challenged over whether or not she had made a reference to Council burning blankets. Council vigorously denied doing any such thing. Alderman Clark denied making such a statement, but when asked to apologise to Council by Mayor Ryan at a public meeting, an apology was given.
Without substantiation of the allegations of theft which you and Rod seem to be making, is an apology from the two of you now in order?


Female tourists sleeping in car alleged to have been sexually assaulted: all three suspects now charged, rifle still not recovered.
@David and @Rod
Can we then look forward to the tabling of your evidence and appropriate apologies and restitution sought from the Alice Springs Town Council? Their public meetings this month (May 2012) are on Monday the 14th and Monday the 28th.
We don’t allow theft from urban drifters, and there is no reason to allow it from Council.


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Open doors, not flogging, will reduce juvenile offending
If only it were so.
As much as I respect the years’ long dedicated work this author has contributed to youth issues in Central Australia, foremost among which being his largely successful work in eliminating the scourge of petrol sniffing out on the Homelands, here I think he is glossing over the issue. “Naughty” not only doesn’t begin to cover it, but is both misleading and trivializing.
The kids in question here are not naughty, but actual criminals engaged in criminal activities.
I, too, have seen Tangentyere Day Patrol on our streets this summer engaging with youth on the streets, and I applaud their efforts. And I have long supported the Gap Youth Centre as a community effort to engage and support youth in the Gap.
But once it and other dedicated outreach centres close for the night, what happens then?
Many go home to what homes they have, but a significant minority do not.
They roam the streets knowing full well that any interaction with the NT Police will be one-sided in their favour.
The police are obliged to back down once any confrontation with under-aged youth takes place. And don’t the kids just know it!
The sad truth is that the line of departing families is growing, while those of us who are staying rely on tall fences, locked gates and barking dogs to ensure out safety and well-being. And until someone, anyone and I don’t care who, can deal effectively with this current and local scourge, the fences, gates and dogs will remain.


What REALLY goes on in our streets: Youth worker
As happens so often these days, Jacinta Price stands tall as an example of a concerned Australian talking common sense. Family responsibility seems to be her mantra when discussing the social ills bedeviling Alice.
And we all know she is right, all that is except for those denizens of the politically correct swamp who would rather further fracture as opposed to heal. They remind me of nothing so much as baby chicks still in the nest, impotent little wings flapping, beaks open and a chorus of gimme gimme gimme gimme.
Walking around town, especially through the shopping centres and the hospital, and the conclusion that this is an Indigenous town is inescapable.
No problem there, but what this means is that the way forward not only has to come from them, but it can only come from them.
Our Town Council would do well to recognize this. Otherwise they risk being consigned to the status of an irrelevant elite watching from behind their fences as our town burns.
And let’s not even talk about Darwin. They may hold immense power over us, but without question they are as useless as teats on a bull.


Lasseters private enterprise beacon in stagnant town
I’m with Scotty on this one. If New Year’s Eve was anything to go by, Animal Bar is putting it mildly.
If Lasseters is having trouble coping with its clientele, they might think about taking a page out of the Gap Hotel’s playbook. Multi-ethnic, multi-racial and zero humbug. An example well worth considering.
And as to John Bell’s suggestion that an irresistible offer from China for Uluru is not far off, if the Vietnamese can gain a 99 year concession to run Angkor Wat, which I was told was the case when I visited Cambodia a couple years ago, then this might not be such a far fetched idea.


Local government: A lot of action beyond the 3Rs
@ Leigh Childs, Posted December 18, 2017 at 8:05 pm: Yes, but not for some years now. And I agree that Broken Hill’s size, history and location make it a much better fit for comparison to Alice than does Murray Bridge.
What I remember is an interesting town on the road between east and west (Alice is between north and south), a hub for the surrounding area, a sculpture park on the top of a hill, the uncanny familiarity of nearby Mutawintji National Park, and marveling at how the local government managed to build all the infrastructure even a small town needs with steep hills and a hard rock base to work with, at least in the central area.
Good point. They seemed to be in the process of reinventing themselves in the years when I was passing through, and it’s good to think they have kept going.


Town still upset with Stuart statue, say researchers
Long live Stuart the Explorer and Two-Up the Bunny! Long may they stand with the Undoolya Perenti as monuments to Alice Springs’ artistic identity.
More would be better. Where is the Indigenous hero to join Stuart along Stuart Terrace? We all know Council would fall over themselves to balance the story being told there.
Mark Egan has created a couple of outstanding examples up the track at Aileron, but whether he would again willingly venture into the hotbed of PC naval gazing that seems to be the default atmosphere here is another question.


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