One unaddressed problem with the Growth Towns might prove to …

Comment on Shires: either revenue must go up or expectations, down by Hal Duell.

One unaddressed problem with the Growth Towns might prove to be the same one that afflicted the new communities of Papunya in the Centre and Wadeye in the Top End (among others) forty years ago. And that’s the problem of forcing different mobs to live in the same community when they might not want to.
Or has that issue been resolved?
I think it’s unrealistic to imagine every small outstation can have all the amenities needed for modern life, amenities like roads, schools, stores and medical clinics. Where will all that money come from, especially as it doesn’t look like an economy, other than a recipient economy, will be getting built any time soon.
I still think the central control maintained by the large land councils has a lot to do with that economic stagnation.
So we live in times of increased urban drift, and who can blame those coming in for moving.
The trouble is that the urban centres are only just managing to provide for those already here. Housing especially is in short supply, but hopefully the Kilgariff suburb will go some way to alleviating that in Alice Springs.
The other change that would do wonders to the social interaction in the urban centres is a massive attitude scrub on the part of the new arrivals. To come to town carrying the same expectations of entitlement that are prevalent on communities is counter productive.

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@Bob Durnan (Posted June 13, 2012 at 5:29 pm)
It is nothing short of amazing that the link between disruptive behaviour and alcohol is still a contentious topic.
A report to our Town Council on the Port Augusta model is due soon. I look forward to reading what it says about that town’s alcohol policy. I am, however, leaning away from expecting a panacea. Alice is home to 250(?) remote communities and once here, urban drifters have nowhere else to go. Port Augusta is home to a couple of remote communities, and once there, the next town is just down the road.
Looking at the NT as a whole I sometimes think alcohol and the alcohol lobby are the headlights and our pollies are the rabbits caught in the glare. All are scared to jump to either side, and they all just keep getting run over.
Closing the bottle shops on one day a week to give us a time out would cost nothing and be so easy to do. But the mere mention of it brings a reaction akin to threatening a birthright. They are so stubborn, and so timid.


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Pine Gap and the Nobel prize the Oz government ignores
Thank you, Russell, for sharing your family’s history. Your grandfather showed great foresight in first getting out of Germany and, later, moving to Australia.
Back to the present, and while I repeat that the Nobel Peace Prize being given to the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons came as a most welcome bolt out of the blue, I can see one big problem in trying to implement its agenda.
Looking at the world today, the hot wars are being waged against countries without nuclear capabilities. These are mostly across the Middle East and in north and sub-saharan Africa. No one is seriously contemplating starting a hot war against countries with a nuclear deterrent, whether they be the big three of Russia, China and the USA or the second tier countries of England, France, India, Pakistan, North Korea and Israel, blustering and posturing notwithstanding.
Looked at in this light, having nuclear weapons makes good sense. Would that it were not so, but, unfortunately, it is.


Pine Gap and the Nobel prize the Oz government ignores
@Steve Brown
Posted October 17, 2017 at 6:28 pm
No argument with what you say about the war in the Pacific, but try as I might, I cannot place that theatre between Japan and Germany.
I can, however, place Mao’s Eighth Route Army there, but if we are to look at that it would mean opening a whole new chapter into who did what in WWII.
As to stability, the Korean war waged from 1950 to the present day has not brought stability, the war in Vietnam did not bring stability, the current kerfuffle in the South China Sea is not bringing stability and the annual Talisman Sabre is not bringing stability.
However, Nixon’s visit to China in 1972 did open a road to stability, but that was an exercise in diplomacy, not sabre rattling.


Pine Gap and the Nobel prize the Oz government ignores
An interesting comment below that the only thing standing between Russell’s father and the Japanese was the strength and commitment of the USA.
It might be more accurate to say that the only thing standing between Russell’s father and the Japanese was the Soviet army.
The Wehrmacht was broken at the battle of Stalingrad (today’s Volgograd), not on the beaches of Normandy, an inconvenient truth, but the truth nonetheless.


Pine Gap and the Nobel prize the Oz government ignores
Being in my own way an optimist, when Trump was elected President of the US I had hopes that he really would get out of foreign wars, make nice with Russia and rebuild America’s crumbling infrastructure. Instead he seems to be locked into waging yet more wars, demonising Russia and destroying infrastructure (and how many lives and hopes and dreams?) in other lands.
Foolish me!
But there may still be a silver lining to the cloud of Trump’s presidency. All over the world people are waking up to the real and present danger of anyone, let alone an unstable person, having nuclear codes at his command.
And he is hardly alone in the unstable stakes. Can anyone really find reason to hope when looking at the antics of Kim in North Korea or Netanyahu in Israel?
The recent Nobel Peace Prize came as a bolt out of the blue. Hopefully it will not be an isolated and forgotten moment of sanity in a world with an increasingly desperate need of sanity.


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