Erwin, a picture really does paint a thousand words, especially …

Comment on The Desert Knowledge upstairs-downstairs dilemma by Ray.

Erwin, a picture really does paint a thousand words, especially the one of the tap. I am having trouble expressing my thoughts on this as I have written, then deleted my response many times and words are failing me. Do I agree with Hal @1 about not seeing the bleeding obvious, or do I really simplify it? Why do we need to use big words like intellectuallising and conceptualising, when the answer is so simple. Turn the bloody thing off!! If that can’t be done, ring a plumber. This is not a complex issue, it is about getting off your backside, and turning off a tap!
For a person who pays for water usage, you understand the value of not letting such a precious resource be wasted. If you do not need to pay for it, because the government will, then who cares??
Erwin, I get pretty worked up about many issuues in your paper as you know, this this one just blows me out of the water, (pardon the pun).

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Matt@1: Making excuses for people is what will keep this problem going for another 30 years. As a landlord you will know a tenant is able to authorise a minor repair (in many states up to $1000) and deduct that from your next rent payment. If the tap is leaking the tenant is still responsible for notifying somebody (landlord, Territory Housing etc) that a problem exists in the first place. It really is not rocket science, and it certainly not a matter of having it both ways. The article states that the tap has been leaking for 12 months. I could be wrong, but I find it unusual that constant requests to have a tap fixed have been ignored by the landlord, Tangentyere or local plumbers for 12 months. Maybe Erwin could investigate that too if that is really the case.
At the end of the day Matt, you can make all the excuses you want, if you are happy for the people concerned to go on believing there is always somebody else to blame, and never find a solution themselves.
You say that it is the responsibility of the landlord to fix the problem, quoting ordinary rental agreements as a reference, but you fail to acknowledge that it is the responsibility of a tenant to notify a landlord of any items that need repair, and also maintain the property in good condition.


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@ Trevor: You have nailed it, absolutely nailed it. Unfortunately is is far more common than people think or could even imagine.


Aboriginal flag on Anzac Hill: the nays have it 
To those who voted against it, thank you. I for one believe that the Australian flag up there and Territory one next to it symbolises all Australians from the Territory that served.
Yes, Aboriginal servicemen had a hard time returning home from service, but so did our Vietnam diggers, of all races.
I suppose that change will come one day, but for the councillors that voted against it represented my point of view, so thank you, your efforts are appreciated.


Will we say sorry to the Abandoned Generation in 10 years?
It sounds like Sue Gordon is getting it and is not afraid to say it how it is.
So many people on this and other forums are saying that the lock me up attitude of the last 20 years is proof that a punitive approach is not working, and we need to change to a more caring model.
Well, here is your evidence of how this new system will work for us. Once the town has died completely and it turns into a service centre only, then people on the east or west coast will say, sadly, “told you so”.
While we keep getting told an entire generation was stolen because of the colour of their skin, and feeling sorry for anybody simply because they said they were stolen too, there will be no solution, but great profits for Harvey Norman and the local bottle shops.
People hopefully will begin to see the point of magistrate Gordon, that a child living in care is better than a child dead with “family”.


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@ Alex: Not sure what evidence you are referring to about alternatives in other countries working. I have tried to find comparatives to our situation, and could not, and our society is vastly different to these countries.
My other point is when you say that what we have done over the last 20 years has not worked.
How can that be proven? In another 20 years, we may look back at this new approach and compare it to what we have been doing, and find it has been more successful, but then again it may fail miserably.
Unless we get to a point where we have two choices to compare, it is hard to outright dismiss what has been done over the last 20 years or so.


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@ Evelyn: You mention evidence of the government being racist when the army was sent into communities and basics cards being introduced among other things.
The army is regularly used in times of emergencies to assist communities that need it, being disaster relief from cyclones, flooding etc. mainly because they are the best equipped to do so.
The Intervention was exactly that, the government needed to intervene because a state of emergency had been declared in these communities with sexually transmitted diseases in kids under 10 years old at epidemic proportions (that is not normal for any society).
There were cases of preventable eye and ear disease and houses in chronic states of disrepair.
The Federal government needed to act and their biggest asset that is Federally controlled is the army. Despite some of the images promoted by the protesters, they didn’t roll in in tanks with M16s slung over their shoulder.
They came in Land Cruisers with the specialist equipment that was needed and were probably the only workforce with the capacity to do the job.
They comprised medics, engineers and logistics specialists. We need to ignore the rhetoric of the critics who paint a picture of a racist government sending in soldiers to round up all the blacks.
Instead we need to read the Little Children are Sacred report again, and remind ourselves of the reasons we not just wanted to, but had to do something for those kids, five year old kids playing out sexualised behaviour on each other, and then seeing pornography freely available in these houses. Coincidence?
Chronic overcrowding, peadophiles being reported and arrested for the first time because the women and community members had faith that they would be listened to and having the oportunity to give evidence without fear of retribution.
I was friends with police who worked on these cases and they said that what the public heard was the tip of the iceberg.
Billions were poured into the SIHIP program for housing as a result of what was identified. Was it done as well as it could be? No. But we all know that now. Was it needed? Well yes it was, for the government not to intervene would have been criminal.
Naturally the Act needed to be changed to allow this response to occur, it would not have been legal otherwise, the ability to do this can be traced back to the 1967 referendum.
As far as applying to any other race? My home town of Bundaberg is about to be, if not already, the next town for the basics card to be rolled out, and it is already being trialled in other areas applying to all races. It is not solely for aboriginal people.
Once again, spend the time, download and really read the LCAS report, your opinion then may change.
Many people cry foul about the Intervention, unfortunately the voices of the ones who are grateful something was done, are drowned out by the ones with the funds and contacts and reasons to make it about themselves, not the ones who need the help.


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