Reply to Janet Brown (Posted July 20, 2012 at 11:43 …

Comment on Criminal lawyers oppose Country Liberals on mandatory sentencing by Bob Durnan.

Reply to Janet Brown (Posted July 20, 2012 at 11:43 am): Goldflam was making valid points about the necessity for separation of powers, the inappropriateness and ineffectiveness of mandatory sentencing, and the injustice of people spending up to two years in gaol on remand when they are quite possibly not guilty of the offence with which they have been charged. Would you not find this intolerable if it happened to you or a family member when you or they were not guilty?
Maybe, Chief Justice Janet, you could sit on a throne and, with your enormous wisdom and insight, carefully divide the entire population into ‘decent’ and ‘crim’ groups, then enact your personal brand of social apartheid and consign the ‘crims’ to a very special hell, without having to send them to trial. The lawyers and other justice sector workers in this town have great respect for the police, and give them much support. Your simplistic assertions on this and other matters impress nobody.

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Criminal lawyers oppose Country Liberals on mandatory sentencing
To Dianne (Posted July 26, 2012 at 2:33 pm): two questions: does Dubai permit easy sales of alcohol? And what punishments apply for serious assault, theft etc?

Criminal lawyers oppose Country Liberals on mandatory sentencing
Janet: Are you just in training to be ordained a complete lunatic, or are you already ordained?
[ED – Hi Janet and Bob, your comments are greatly appreciated, but we aim to publish well argued opinions (and you have provided many) rather than personal attacks. Please bear this in mind when continuing your exchange in the spirit of freedom of speech in a democratic country, in a medium determined to offer a platform for all points of view, and in a region struggling to maintain an acceptable mode of survival.]

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Like InterestedDarwinObserver, I think Assistant Commissioner Beer’s claim is a somewhat questionable one.
Given that the majority of NT road deaths are normally the result of single vehicle roll-overs on remote roads, it is questionable whether more intensive traffic policing in Alice would necessarily produce this good result as claimed.
We would need a much bigger sample and more details of the individual accidents to really get an idea about what is actually going on here.

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Hal, (Posted April 14, 2019 at 1:29 am): Don’t be so disingenuous. It is obvious from the article that CLC staff have been trying very hard to get permission to act.
They have now made their frustrations known to the relevant authorities, who are able to step in.
My point is that your criticism should have been aimed at those responsible (the traditional owners in question), not at the CLC as an organisation, as the staff are trying to do their job and get something done about the situation.
I was at both Mulga Bore and Angula a little over a week ago, and found very few people at Mulga, and none at Angula.
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Hal: How would the Land Council stand legally if it were to destroy the property of a set of traditional owners without their permission? The CLC does not own the horses.
They are either the property of individual traditional owners and traditional owner family groups, or of persons who have contracts with the TOs to allow their horses to be on the TOs’ land.
Or else they are the responsibility of the particular Land Trust trustees on whose land they are located.
Legally the CLC as a statutory body can only consult and advise the traditional owners, and act on their instructions. It cannot make decisions for them without their permission.

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Ruth Gibbins (Posted January 23, 2019 at 7:55 pm): Monika Billen was not at Trephina Gorge, the park reserve about 85 km east of Alice, where the German couple, the Thors, died from thirst or exposure 12 months ago.
Monika visited a different park reserve, Emily Gap, which is only about 10 km east of Alice. She seemingly walked there by herself on a very hot day, above 40 degrees centigrade.
Monika was apparently found under a tree in a rugged area, well away from the road, about three km back towards Alice from that small gorge.
So she died in the bush about seven km east of Alice, but in the bush, off the road.
There is no established walking track through the bush from Emily Gap to Alice.
Sadly, Monika had been missing for a week before anybody realised that she had not returned from her walk to and from Emily gap, along a non-designated route, in the extreme heat.

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