@ Hal The term Laborite wasn’t addressed to you, Hal, …

Comment on Convincing win for Country Liberals: ALP likely to lose its only seat in The Centre by Steve Brown.

@ Hal The term Laborite wasn’t addressed to you, Hal, but to the world in general.

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Convincing win for Country Liberals: ALP likely to lose its only seat in The Centre
Yep totally agree Hal. Thanks Alice News.


Convincing win for Country Liberals: ALP likely to lose its only seat in The Centre
@ Bob I just read Your Comment, Quote. “If “Labor got it so wrong … trying to stop alcohol abuse by blaming business owners for supplying but never the individual for drinking”, how do you explain the Enough is Enough package and the Banned Drinkers Register? If that system was not an example, par excellence, of putting the blame and responsibility on the individual for drinking (it was the individual who was banned from drinking, Steve, not the business owner from selling) I can’t imagine what would be! Huh? Must say you cracked me up Bob, rolling on the floor laughing Ho HO HE HE You really consider a Banned Drinkers Register that had no consequence other than another warning no power to compel anyone to attend court that only stopped you buying take away but still allowed you to drink in the bar! You think a policy like that was going to work? Par Excellence! No wonder Labor just got booted! Thanks for the laugh Bob. You need to borrow a jacket give us a yell, I’ve got one I don’t need any more.


Convincing win for Country Liberals: ALP likely to lose its only seat in The Centre
Hal you and a number of others who have entered the political discourse in recent times often raise taking into account the opposing view, win the argument then all hold hands in some sort of commonality which of course in some cases and discussions is entirely possible.
Those occasions would be when the opposing view has something to offer, something within it worthwhile. I am saying to you that on this occasion that is not so. Labor got it so wrong, moved so far from government of the little people that it was closer to a fascist party, supporting big business against small, supporting and assisting land speculation by restricting Land release, trying to stop alcohol abuse by blaming business owners for supplying but never the individual for drinking.
They increased the levels of discontent, misery, dislocation with their alcohol regime, they created heartbreak sadness more dislocation with their complete disinterest in maintaining law and order, they made life extremely tough for mums and dads by allowing affordability to become a thing of the past they drove our children from the town by the same means.
You get my drift yet, Hal, and other like commentators? We have to move completely away from whatever the mentality was that created this disaster for Alice and in doing so, Hal, the small percentage that didn’t vote for change will still gain all the advantages that this new regime will eventually bring for our community.
Yes, good Government is for everybody but you don’t get good government by walking in the shoes of extremely bad Government nor by listening to their advice and advisers. Those of you on the Left have just had eleven years to show us just how effective you are in Government. Look around you, see the disaster, the discontent, the misery you have created then maybe put your feet up and enjoy the benefits of good government, perhaps learn a thing or two, maybe ask a question or two about how a so called “Labor Party” could move so far from its foundational beliefs and perhaps resurrect the party into something that can provide a worthwhile role as opposition.
The loosing vote is not 49% in our town, more likely 25%, and for those concerned, I am not part of this government, I am not even a member of the party, just a really enthusiastic supporter who has spent years of struggle to either change the policies or remove the Labor Government entirely.
Now I’ve had a bit of fun gloating just a little, now it’s back to work putting forward policies and argument for the town of Alice, some of which hopefully this new Government will take on board, and it’s your turn to start from where I did 11 years ago, Laborites … out in the cold.


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There’s more to renewables than sunshine
Until now every drop of water that was ever on the earth has remained on the earth.
Wouldn’t it be the ultimate irony if quasi religious climate fanatics were eventually responsible for using up that water, turning it into hydrogen?
It would be even more ironical that we should consider that in one of the driest places on earth, where water is absolutely in its most valuable state as water.
We should all understand that there is no such thing as free energy. There is always a price and generally speaking it would be a pretty bloody smart idea to understand that price, monetary or otherwise, before we go racing off creating even more mammoth environmental issues for future generations.
For the present there are so many ifs around the Hydrogen idea that – dare I say it – it’s simply a pipe dream!
Also noted the quick duck for cover by Mr Duignan when the question about feed-in prices for home solar generators was raised.
Whose issue would that be then Mr Duignan? Wouldn’t that be the Territory Government and given that Territory Generation is in fact a quasi public service operation owned lock stock and barrel by Territory taxpayers, maybe a more responsible answer would be in keeping with that role.


Community solar: the devil is in the wires
Yes, and then there’s all the community facilities of which we are all joint owners! Places such schools, hospitals, police stations, street lighting, ecetera, the list is endless.
All of these facilities require power 24/7 as does welfare housing, hotels and motels, all connected to the rest of the grid.
Consumers on the remaining grid would, as they do now, have to pay their share of those costs, plus, the share of those in the community system.
This is already occurring of course, on a smaller scale, and the costs to the poor old hapless consumer who can’t afford to instal solar, are already escalating.
The only fair way to rectify this imbalance, which of course nobody wants to hear about, all studiously avoiding the subject, is for owners of solar systems to pay their share of those costs!
Another words, pay not only for their use of the grid, but for the existence of the grid.
Yes, even if they are operating a stand alone system.
This of course effects the whole viability of installing solar, dragging its payback time out by quite a bit.
However, if we are to honestly asses the true worth of solar to the community, then these costs really must be taken into account.
It’s time the rose coloured glasses came off, frank and honest assessments are made.
Governments parading solar as world changing advancement are often actually subsidising its installation while blithely ignoring the true and growing cost to community. Just face up to, and come up with, some fair and equable answers!
Now we seem to be adding lithium iron batteries to the mix, as if they are some kind of nice environmentally friendly answer to our storage problems, when to my eye, precisely the opposite is true.
I am an enthusiastic supporter of the idea of renewable power but it must be truly honestly viable, covering all the costs, and it absolutely must create less pollution than our present systems of generation or we are all fooling ourselves.


Ratepayer, do you want your money back?
Such an astoundingly naive proposal could only ever have originated with one Councillor Melky. As always grandstanding without the slightest thought given to the actual consequences of such a profoundly counter productive decision. Which if carried out to the letter would see a good deal of the windfall funds blown in the name of community consultation. Any attempt to refund it would incur even greater costs reducing any refund to a piddling amount producing no worthwhile outcome for the community, especially when you consider Council has on its books many unfunded, or even worse partially funded, or non completed projects that could have, and indeed should have, been funded partially or otherwise from these funds! Benefiting the Community and its economy as a whole.
More importantly, not wasting a huge amount of Council’s time and productivity messing about with a messy, unproductive, time wasting and resultantly expensive, refund. Further to that should Council do the sensible thing and allocate the funds to other projects, it will also provide Councillors with a very good argument against further rate rises next year.
Something I am quite certain, all Rate payers would be relieved to hear.
New councillors need to be across and take responsibility for their role as Body Corporate style managers of their Community’s assets and not to be so easily be duped into making what may seem on the face of it to be responsible decisions but which are in fact cheap political attention seeking ploys with no regard for what may well turn out to be far reaching consequence…
Take time to think it all the way through…
Before you act!


Bottle shop cops ‘security guards, paid for by the taxpayer’
From the moment the POSIs were implemented they have proved themselves to be the single most effective crime prevention measure the Territory has ever seen.
Now I don’t know about you Paul McCue but I would much rather have my family home and business all kept in one piece as opposed to paying out my hard earned to employ a police person who gets greater job satisfaction from aftermath policing!
A person who apparently has so little empathy for the public’s plight that they would actually ask for our support in that role but not in the preventative role!
Call it self interest if you like Mr McCue, but I like many other Territorians, through the voices of our politicians, are going to keep on insisting on the POSIs wherever they are needed.
If we have a police staffing issue employ more police – just as we have been promised on many occasions over the past dozen years.
Fill all of the roles the community requires, not just the roles that suite you!


Pine Gap and the Nobel prize the Oz government ignores
@ Hal: My reference is to Russell’s dad escaping the Germans and arriving in Australia.
Given that he escaped Germany during WW2, if he then set out for Australia he would have arrived during Australia’s greatest hour of peril, facing an imminent Japanese invasion.
Out of the frying pan almost into the fire, bar for the intervention of the USA.


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