@ Hal The term Laborite wasn’t addressed to you, Hal, …

Comment on Convincing win for Country Liberals: ALP likely to lose its only seat in The Centre by Steve Brown.

@ Hal The term Laborite wasn’t addressed to you, Hal, but to the world in general.

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Convincing win for Country Liberals: ALP likely to lose its only seat in The Centre
Yep totally agree Hal. Thanks Alice News.


Convincing win for Country Liberals: ALP likely to lose its only seat in The Centre
@ Bob I just read Your Comment, Quote. “If “Labor got it so wrong … trying to stop alcohol abuse by blaming business owners for supplying but never the individual for drinking”, how do you explain the Enough is Enough package and the Banned Drinkers Register? If that system was not an example, par excellence, of putting the blame and responsibility on the individual for drinking (it was the individual who was banned from drinking, Steve, not the business owner from selling) I can’t imagine what would be! Huh? Must say you cracked me up Bob, rolling on the floor laughing Ho HO HE HE You really consider a Banned Drinkers Register that had no consequence other than another warning no power to compel anyone to attend court that only stopped you buying take away but still allowed you to drink in the bar! You think a policy like that was going to work? Par Excellence! No wonder Labor just got booted! Thanks for the laugh Bob. You need to borrow a jacket give us a yell, I’ve got one I don’t need any more.


Convincing win for Country Liberals: ALP likely to lose its only seat in The Centre
Hal you and a number of others who have entered the political discourse in recent times often raise taking into account the opposing view, win the argument then all hold hands in some sort of commonality which of course in some cases and discussions is entirely possible.
Those occasions would be when the opposing view has something to offer, something within it worthwhile. I am saying to you that on this occasion that is not so. Labor got it so wrong, moved so far from government of the little people that it was closer to a fascist party, supporting big business against small, supporting and assisting land speculation by restricting Land release, trying to stop alcohol abuse by blaming business owners for supplying but never the individual for drinking.
They increased the levels of discontent, misery, dislocation with their alcohol regime, they created heartbreak sadness more dislocation with their complete disinterest in maintaining law and order, they made life extremely tough for mums and dads by allowing affordability to become a thing of the past they drove our children from the town by the same means.
You get my drift yet, Hal, and other like commentators? We have to move completely away from whatever the mentality was that created this disaster for Alice and in doing so, Hal, the small percentage that didn’t vote for change will still gain all the advantages that this new regime will eventually bring for our community.
Yes, good Government is for everybody but you don’t get good government by walking in the shoes of extremely bad Government nor by listening to their advice and advisers. Those of you on the Left have just had eleven years to show us just how effective you are in Government. Look around you, see the disaster, the discontent, the misery you have created then maybe put your feet up and enjoy the benefits of good government, perhaps learn a thing or two, maybe ask a question or two about how a so called “Labor Party” could move so far from its foundational beliefs and perhaps resurrect the party into something that can provide a worthwhile role as opposition.
The loosing vote is not 49% in our town, more likely 25%, and for those concerned, I am not part of this government, I am not even a member of the party, just a really enthusiastic supporter who has spent years of struggle to either change the policies or remove the Labor Government entirely.
Now I’ve had a bit of fun gloating just a little, now it’s back to work putting forward policies and argument for the town of Alice, some of which hopefully this new Government will take on board, and it’s your turn to start from where I did 11 years ago, Laborites … out in the cold.


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Aboriginal flag on Anzac Hill: the nays have it 
@ Concerned Arrernte Man: If you were indeed a concerned Arrernte “man” you would use your real name, like a man, so that we locals know what your word is worth.
What I suspect is that you aren’t local at all. We are trying to put our town together not rip it apart, your intention is clearly the opposite.
Anzac Hill was sincerely and solemnly dedicated by TOs many years ago to the purpose which it serves respectfully to this day.
It was and remains a joint community effort, if indeed you are a Arrernte man you would do well to respect and to learn from the decisions of your elders.


‘Dangerous, alarming’ property tax strongly opposed by council
Yeh Evelyn I used those words so as not to go into a long winded conversation about the technicalities of Drilling for Gas as it has nothing to do with the conversation at hand… However I am extremely well aware of the dangers or otherwise of Drilling. I have drilled water bores myself and I have family in the exploration business who own their own Rigs. Horizontal Drilling has been in use for a long time it has been developed simply to save costs because you don’t have to drill as many vertical penetrations through the water bearing Aquifers as such it is actually a much safer less expensive method of extraction. Further to this my comment around safety of some forms of Fracking refers to Coal Seam Gas which I substantially oppose.


Aboriginal flag on Anzac Hill: the nays have it 
It is important when dealing with issues that stir emotions and threaten to deepen the divides in our community that we remember and respect that we are One Nation called Australia. That we are a Democracy! We regard all our citizens as equals! In a democracy decisions fall in favour of the Majority, regardless of race, gender or religion.

Separate recognition is not respect! It is a continuation of, a deepening of, the Politics of Apartheid and Victimhood.
Nothing, but greater and greater division will come of it!
No good ever comes from Apartheid.
Only the institutionalised acceptance of lower standards and less expectation, for those on the wrong side of it.
Previously as a Councillor and Political Candidate I was approached time and time again by locals of Aboriginal background, Aussies who are sick to death of division who just want to get on with their lives just like the rest of us, stating that they do not want to see separate flags flying on Anzac Hill because that sends the message that they aren’t accepted as Australians.
I am also aware of Councillor DeBrenni and other efforts to consult widely on this front, checking the views of many locals Aboriginal and non-alike, making sure that their views are expressed clearly in Council.
Many local families don’t wish others to know their views as in a small town it can lead to family infighting as we have witnessed firsthand with a small group of locals attacking views expressed by Councillor Price. They rely heavily on their Elected Representatives to put forward their view and to stand up for them.
This whole flag flying issue was instigated by Labor MLA Chansey Paech its only intent to create disruption dissent and division its only intent to divert attention from his failure to stand up for our Community while once again it comes apart under a Labor Government.
The ladies who approached Council did so with a letter about respect reconciliation and working together. There was no mention whatsoever of flying flags, nor was it mentioned by Catherine Satour when presenting the letter. From events later in the evening it came to the fore that the letter was actually apart of an attack on Councillor Price because of her expressed views on the very things that should also be of great concern to these ladies.


‘Dangerous, alarming’ property tax strongly opposed by council
Evelyn, So easy to make throw away green propaganda statements without taking any responsibility for dealing with the consequences.
Firstly under many circumstances Fracking is perfectly safe!
We’ve been Fracking Conventional and Tight Gas wells for some fifty years. There is an established industry already operating in the Territory and many reliant on it, including for that matter nearly all the Territory’s power supplies!
Further if we stand in the way and don’t further develop our Gas Supplies as the rest of the country expects us to, there is a price to pay!
We are going to receive less GST!
After all why should the rest of Aus. who already have Fracking, support what you believe at their expense?
In response to this issue you are suggesting that we ask struggling Territorians to pay another level of Tax similar to a second lot of rates every year.
This, in a shrinking economy!
We are already struggling with affordability, Land Taxes will translate into higher rents and Higher costs all round.
I don’t think Territorians can or want to afford that. Especially given that much of the country already receives revenue from “Fracking”, which surprisingly enough, is why their eyebrows are somewhat raised in our direction.
So we might want to give it all a lot more thought than cheap throw away lines. Not that I’m saying Fracking is the only answer to our revenue issue, it certainly isn’t. We have a shrinking economy because it is being strangled by our Government suffocating any industry that offers potential growth and strangling the life from existing business. The real answer is actually to strangle Government and return to a private enterprise driven economy.


‘Dangerous, alarming’ property tax strongly opposed by council
The amounts I’ve heard quoted for the initial land tax are far in excess of $300 but even if they weren’t initially they pretty soon would be.
The Territory has a revenue problem alright. Why? For one reason only!
We have taken money supplied by other Australians to both develop the North to a point where it can take advantage of the simply enormous economic opportunity that surrounds it, and to improve the plight of our Aboriginal population via similar means.
Instead of that we have taken the massive extra funding we receive over and above other States and Territories and we’ve built a giant, cumbersome, enterprise stifling, parasitic bureaucracy!
This is to a point where any Federal attempt to fund development is like throwing the proverbial at a blanket – very very little gets to its intended destination.
The answer to our revenue issue isn’t more business and entrepreneurial activity stifling tax!
The answer is less tax.
Much, much smaller Government along with a huge cultural shift in the attitude of our capital that thinks it is OK to milk of funds and use them to provide lavish recreational facilities and lifestyle for the those that live in the capital while regions struggling with basic infrastructure can’t get their developments off the ground.
Yeh, we’ve got a problem alright!
The sooner the Feds enforce their enquiry into funding the sooner we will be able to do something about it.


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