I would love to see further work and development of …

Comment on ‘Chain gang’ or holiday gaol time: a crucial question for our parks by Steve Brown.

I would love to see further work and development of the Larapinta Trail as it is an can be of much greater benefit as a tourist attraction.
In conjunction with its development however, we also need to see development of much greater vehicle access and camping grounds into the same areas. Walking trails only cater to a very small section of the population, we must make sure we are keeping our sights set on also attracting the biggest portion of the tourist market, those that drive or ride as opposed to those that walk.
The comments by Mr Latz and rangers re buffel grass can only leave you shaking your head. It’s not the buffel that’s the biggest threat to our National Parks. It is bloody poor management! In short “they – the so called experts”, are the threat! Stop the burning!
Fire is most often started by those who are supposedly preventing it That is the direct cause of the loss of trees and the increased domination of buffel in the landscape. Good graded or mowed fire breaks at regular interval, grazing and rapidly extinguishing any fires is the answer.
Good for soil fertility, good for the economy, good for trees, good for the beauty of the country.
Too many uni-educated “ex spurts” with no grasp, no handle on whom and what pays their wages.
Buffel is a pasture plant. It lifts the food productivity of the land by a massive amount.
Even to discuss, let alone carry out the development of a fungi or other method that threatens our pasture grasses could and should be seen as an act of bio terrorism threatening the nation’s wealth and food security.
Some of our bureaucrats need to understand: no grass, no food production, no money, no pay!
Which means no park management, no experts, no rangers and no bloody tourists because starving people don’t walk.
So instead of delivering a continual stream of propaganda based on the personal dislikes of a few individuals it’s time to sit down and map out a management plan for our parks which should include shepherded herds grazing our parks under licence.
Not only will they produce food and protect our parks, but will add an interesting attraction for our tourists [now fed] by developing dude ranch type activities.
It’s time to bush the experts and get some commonsense back on the ground. Take the parks from the ferals and give them back to the people!

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‘Chain gang’ or holiday gaol time: a crucial question for our parks
If I were asked to further define the mentality that is both destroying our parks, the rights of our people and our nation wealth, small closed minds of an inept academia, I would simply point to the comments of Ian and Bob where that mentality is so aptly demonstrated.
World heritage, hey, Ian? What do you think that achieves that’s good for us, our town, our economy? And please spare us the propaganda.
World heritage listing would simply further embroil us in bureaucracy and red tape, further exclude ordinary people from enjoying their beautiful surrounds. Surrounds that your lot would isolate and leave open to ever increasing amounts of mismanagement from city born, city educated blow-ins with absolutely no knowledge of country, what makes it tick and more importantly, what makes it live!
My knowledge comes from a lifetime of working on and with the Land extracting a sustainable living from the land and landscape, working alongside friends, family and acquaintances who created, pioneered our community. We didn’t hear about it, we didn’t read about it, we lived on it, with it, grew up on it, we know this land, its plants its animals its beauty its moods, what it will give and what it won’t.
Lifetimes of observation, that’s my knowledge base. I know that it’s difficult to understand when your only knowledge base is the book in your hand but as any good coach or teacher will tell you, nothing is ever really learnt until you do it.
It is a tragedy that over the years parks, the environment in general and, yes, even the astounding newly discovered [by the above] biodiversity have all become the play things, the buzz words of smaller a smaller group of activists and academia who have created an exclusive snobbish club around the subjects, to the general exclusion of all others. This is the group I refer to as Ferals, those that have given parks, conservation, the environment and the biodiversity an increasingly bad name, developing an us and them mentality which in the end will do their stated cause immense harm.
If you want people to love and protect the environment, and our parks, you don’t develop that love by locking them out! You develop it by putting them in, giving them access. This way they get to know the value. Isolate the parks for long enough and eventually people won’t care what happens to them. As for the grazing of parks, that seems just too much for Ian, it is a practice that is carried out in many places around the world simply because it is by far and away the least damaging way to manage pasture, particularly in difficult terrains. You might want to keep in mind that the area known as the West Macs has been heavily stocked for over a hundred years. Whatever damage that was going to do is already done.
When cattle were finally removed from the valleys and ranges, pet food shooters also took out somewhere around ten thousand head of horses and donkeys over and above the numbers of cattle.
This occurred before the nuffel was established. What does all that mean? It means that the amount of grass, food, energy and if left unused “fuel” produced by this area is quite vast.
In order to maintain some sort of control, that prevents continual destructive burning which certainly does threaten the biodiversity, the whole area would sustain quite a large number of cattle or other grazing animals – another wealth earning industry that might actually pay a few ranger wages without doing any damage at all, if properly managed.


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Wakefield insists on Anzac Oval, ignores majority
The longer this process goes on the more likely we are to lose it altogether. That’s a loss of $150m into our economy, just on build!
The government has made up its mind on the site. That’s their right! That’s what we elect them for, to make what they see as the best decision, on our behalf!
So, while about 4% of the population whinge about it, and try to foil the process, keep this in mind.
If it doesn’t go ahead at Anzac there will be no new rugby grounds! Another $20m to $30m.
There will be no amphitheatre or the CBD space to put one. Another $3m to $4m.
We will miss out on an expansion of CBD parking. Millions more!
And we will miss the opportunity to create much increased foot traffic into the CBD and the resulting growth in small business. Millions more.
There is now very little chance of it going anywhere else. It will either go at the Anzac Hill site or we will lose it altogether!
Federal Politicians looking for an excuse to fund it in South Australia have been handed exactly what they want, local dissent!
It shouldn’t take much more to tip the scales, if the damage hasn’t already been done.
If we believe in our community, if we want to grow our economy, create opportunity for ourselves and our children into the future we have to be prepared to accept change, to put our petty likes and dislikes along with what often amounts to rather shallow competitive political viewpoints aside for the greater good.
To put it bluntly, “suck it up and stand aside in support of the best obtainable outcome for our community!
Let’s not cut off our nose to spite our face!


The millions and the misery
Interesting article that this may be, I would not like to see discussion centred around the ins and out of funding to various Aboriginal organisations being conflated in anyway with our discussions around funding and locating our proposed youth centre.
We are attempting to get a whole of community approach to this!
That approach, if it is to be successful, will most certainly include the organisations mentioned.
While we clearly share everyone’s enthusiasm for the Old Memo Club as an ideal site for our centre and have said so publicly on a number of occasions, the fact remains that this is the legally owned property of Centercorp and the only way that we could possibly acquire it for the centre is if these organisations believe in our cause and choose to come on board, something that I very much encourage them to do.
My apologies Centrecorp and Congress if we have caused inconvenience, we were “dreaming” our best possible options for getting something off the ground, ASAP.
We fervently hope in the interests of this community’s children you will give the promoted concept some very serious consideration and come to understand as many already have, the true value to the community, and all your investment in it
It is having a happy, healthy, united community where kids know they are cared for and see exciting future prospects in front of them, with staff, volunteers and mentors from our new centre showing the way.


Memo Club for 24/7 youth centre?
@ Evelyne: No, definitely too far from CBD and don’t think the neighbours would be to keen.
The bed requirement part of the concept is “emergency bed requirement” only, as per “Careful’s” comment probably not a large demand for it. We could manage with temporary facilities and grow after assessing demand.
I imagine that most kids would catch the bus at the cessation of evening activities. The most important part of this centre will be kitchen, dining and activities which would also clearly encompass such things as after school care.
As for existing facilities: This is not a petty competition nor are we interested in the petty politics of those more interested in protecting their own backsides than looking after children.
Let’s deal with the basic facts: Governments of all persuasions have struggled with this issue for 50 years or so. They have funded and de-funded all manner of organisations in the process!
And they have failed.
Yes, there are existing organisation who have cross over interests.
However, we still have the issue.
In fact it is a large growing generational issue, at times literally hundreds of kids hanging about on our streets, growing crime and increasing isolation, increasing division, increasing us and them, increasing have and have not and increasing community anger and resentment.
The concept of bringing kids and community members, not just street kids into a central location, is not just about food and activities, it is about containing the hanging out to a really “cool” location and it is about cross community interaction.
Breaking down the division!
It is about rebuilding a community out of a rapidly growing divide that threatens its very foundations.
The issue is far greater than the petty self interests of a few professional youth workers who feel someone is intruding on their turf!
If your a genuine committed professional youth worker you will know the value of the community interaction too which I refer and you will get on board.
This is not a government initiative, it is a community movement, the only ones in the end who can really make a difference.
And not just for neglected kids, not just for underprivileged kids, but for all the kids in our community, which in the end means a difference for all of us!
We envisage that those centres already working in this area would come on board and work with us, probably moving their services into the central complex or maintain offices there, or doing pick ups and drop offs so that everybody’s together, part of the activity and excitement, of things going on: That is what we want to create.
We have said all along, while we are looking at a community youth centre driven by volunteers it would also incorporate professional management and youth workers.
This is about everybody in the sector putting aside selfish interest and uniting to bring about effective change.
It’s about making a massive difference to a whole lot of young lives and making our community a whole lot happier place to live for everybody.


Memo Club for 24/7 youth centre?
While I share the enthusiasm for getting our priorities right and dealing with our Youth issue first up, projects such as the art gallery are equally important in building a successful community … no economy, no people, no funds or assistance for a centre.
So we aren’t looking to swap one for another, we are looking to do both and more!
Importantly I can report to you that I am running into a great deal of support for the youth centre project from all sectors and I don’t think we are going to have to many issues funding this project, even with the art centre going ahead.
The cross community support I have encountered so far leads me to believe we are going to be successful in getting the project off the ground.
My real concern at this stage is the amount of time it will take to do that!
Obviously if we can’t find an existing facility of the right size and location i.e. the Memo Club there is likely to be a period of at least a couple of years before we can build and be operational.
This is a really urgent issue, requiring immediate action, especially when you think of those two years through the eyes of an eight year old child virtually living on the streets.
Two years is a lifetime, and for that matter for a town being battered by a street kid crime wave, two years is also an eternity!
So clearly we need to act and act now! All ideas are welcome but we must have large open space kitchen and dining, multiple toilets / bathrooms to cater for several hundred kids in a central well lit location.


Memo Club for 24/7 youth centre?
We were always aware that Congress had intentions for the Old Memo Club and our project certainly doesn’t hinge on being able to get our hands on those premises.
I put it forward as a potential location so that everyone would understand the desired CBD location, building size and layout that our proposed Centre requires, large open areas, dining and kitchen facilities – very much like the Memo Club.
This of course would have been ideal if it were available.
So if you change your mind Congress, there’s a lot of kids who would greatly appreciate it.
In the meantime I imagine we will be looking for temporary premises to get things underway while we raise the funds to build to our design.


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