Re Steve’s comment (Posted October 30, 2012 at 5:12 pm): …

Comment on The Great Alcohol Debate: Council rangers work ‘more difficult’ since scrapping of BDR, says Mayor by Bob Durnan.

Re Steve’s comment (Posted October 30, 2012 at 5:12 pm): Steve is unable to assimilate (or possibly is not able to cope with) the fact that the BDR greatly reduced – but did not necessarily completely eliminate – a great deal of the alcohol consumption of most of the 800 or so local drinkers who were on the banning register.
Many of these people were occasional or regular binge drinkers, mostly visitors to town from bush communities, and would not fit the classic description of alcoholics.
Many others were town-dwelling daily drinkers, or as close to it as they could manage on their limited incomes.
As these banned drinkers’ combined access to alcohol was reduced, and the BDR process produced a “critical mass” effect, so the ability of police to contain and eliminate the remaining public drinking and nuisance making was greatly increased, leading to the situation we saw in July and August, when there was virtually no public drinking or disorder occurring in public spaces even during sunny daylight hours.
Steve chooses to reduce the fact of the BDR’s impact to a simple caricature of the complex reality.
However it is completely predictable that most of the 800 banned drinkers in central Australia would immediately resume their bingeing as soon as they were no longer blocked from drinking at the Todd Tavern and Gapview bars and once again able to freely purchase take-away alcohol anywhere they pleased.
Thus the Mayor and his workers are on very strong factual and logical grounds, supported by many other observers, and are entitled to have their opinions respected, when they interpret the sudden return of widespread littering of alcohol containers and broken glass in public places as strongly correlating with and mainly caused by the suspension of the Banned Drinkers Register.

Recent Comments by Bob Durnan

Seniors concessions praised, but questions about tiers
Fascinating to hear that seniors who were grandfathered will keep their concessions and receive $500.
Would be even more interesting to know what that means.
Exactly what did the grandfathers do to the seniors? Care to tell us, Sue Shearer?

Bottle shop cops ‘security guards, paid for by the taxpayer’
Neither Paul McCue nor James Smerk understands the role of the police at the TBLs / POSIs outside the takeaway grog outlets.
They are not there for the purpose of policing the outlets, nor for the purpose of proving security for the benefit of the outlets and their customers, although they do some of that incidentally in the course of their main duties.
The reason that police are there is to prevent the trafficking of alcohol by people who have no legitimate place to drink it, and who are intending to drink it in places where it is illegal to do so, such as Aboriginal lands where communities have asked the Liquor Commission to declare areas dry, or town camp leases which the Federal government has declared dry for the wellbeing of vulnerable residents.
These are the sole reasons that police are stationed outside the off-licence liquor outlets.

Booze report: What the government is likely to do.
In response to R Henry on Oct 20th, on who gets the extra markup money?
There is very little brand loyalty to the cheap brands of Chardonnay amongst our dedicated alcohol-drinking punters: They are after the cheapest hit of alcohol for their buck, regardless of its host liquid, not for their next taste of the rank Calabrian / Bortoli products.
Since the vast majority of shoppers generally shift their choice to better value for money when confronted with higher prices (and this happened when Clare Martin knocked the cheapest wines and sherries off the shelves in October 2006: there was a massive shift to beer), there is unlikely to be very much windfall profits via extra markup.
To the extent that there are any windfalls, they are unlikely to be anywhere near commensurate with the decrease in profits that are likely to occur because of the overall impacts of a number of the proposed reforms.
To see if I am correct, keep your ears open for the sounds of the interstate alcohol industry cartels – manufacturers, wholesalers, retailers and their paid public relations reps squealing about the alleged injustice, unfairness and unworkability of these visionary evidence-based reforms.
It is going to be an interesting war, and the outcome will decide whether the NT has any future worth speaking about.

Elferink and Gooda clash over underage marriage
Peter, Posted June 30, 2017 at 2:30 pm: some young girls may resist promised marriage more strongly these days, but I doubt whether some are in a position to do so.
It has been authoritatively reported by youth workers in Alice Springs and Tennant Creek in the last few years that rape of young women is rife in these towns.

I’m not kungka, I’m arelhe
Does anybody know if the hours when the Arrernte words teaching program is held at the Apmere angkentye-kenhe are available somewhere on the net, or anywhere else?
I thought I had seen it advertised for every Wednesday night at 6pm, but this doesn’t appear to be the case?
I have gone there at this time, found it closed, and no notice or info on the door.
Anybody wanna clarify here?

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