Backing what Damian said, I have noticed a massive increase …

Comment on The Great Alcohol Debate: Council rangers work ‘more difficult’ since scrapping of BDR, says Mayor by Ray.

Backing what Damian said, I have noticed a massive increase in general litter and broken bottles all around the Crown land near the Lovegrove Drive / Larapinta intersection. There are a lot more people camping, drinking and fighting. There aren’t any toilets there, and the stench rising from the blankets and discarded food items is sickening. The NT Police Superintendent’s office has discussed these issues with me following correspondence to Adam Giles, who has been very supportive. What a shame to take kids bike riding and having to put up with this filth. Unfortunately, it has got noticeably worse since the election, although it has spiked previously with events such as footy carnivals etc. These drinkers come from prescribed public housing and Morris Soak camp, but many are drifters from out of town. Please feel free to walk through this area to get first hand confirmation.

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The Great Alcohol Debate: Council rangers work ‘more difficult’ since scrapping of BDR, says Mayor
Thanks Dave, I do pick up the litter (bottles and cans) with my kids, and take them to be cashed in. I do this with my kids for pocket money for them. I do need to take care though and we don’t pick up the broken ones, but once again, we still seem to be picking up the pieces. All my original post was intended to do was agree with Damien, that the workload of the rangers seems to have increased, along with the litter, which is a shame.


The Great Alcohol Debate: Council rangers work ‘more difficult’ since scrapping of BDR, says Mayor
Wow Russell such a response on a simple observation of mine that the litter and associated mess is getting worse, in line with the original article. For this I get a brief history of the world over the last 400 years.
I am aware of Cook sailing up and down the coast. I have been to Cooktown and the Town of 1770, so I have that part of history pretty well covered. I never invited you to inspect toileting habits, I simply invited interested readers to walk through one area that suffers from the problem that Mayor Ryan mentioned, and how his rangers noticed an increase in the amount and types of litter. Evidence to back the claims in the article, as according to you Russell, we can’t have an opinion unless we have evidence to back it up.
I am actually referring to what is happening today Russell, in 2012. I have not personally seen Englishmen running around with guns chasing the natives into this area, but maybe you have evidence of this?
Can’t afford overnight accommodation? Really Russell? I am not worried about why they are here, I just object to the litter, broken glass, drunken arguments and lack of hygiene that is occurring in our town. What modern, civilised society should tolerate this, particularly when it occurs in an area of such natural beauty that is regularly used by walkers, bike riders and runners. All of whom have a right to use this area. Before you claim I am being racist towards the “poor wretches” remember that the “traditional owners” are offended by it. These people, from Utopia, Yuendemu, Papunya and other areas, are coming into country that is not theirs, and disrespecting it. The need for basic sanitation is known by modern and traditional people. It may be that these people, who subject their own children to this lifestyle, simply do not care. There are people like this across all races, so I am not racial profiling. If you think that Aboriginal people do not have any reason to care about our standards of cleanliness and pride, please tell those communities that proudly display a Tidy Town Winner sign that their efforts are only white fella way.
You have proven you vastly superior intelligence with your dates and placements of historical events and explorers, but why do you feel the need to denigrate a person of no more than average intelligence, who simply likes to share an opinion to contribute to some of the issues affecting the place I have chosen to call home?


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Private chats with govt heavy: mixed results
Jimmy, you were elected to represent ratepayers, not the Aranda voices.
Simply represent the people who elected you, and most of those voices as quite clear on they want.
Voices of the Aranda should have no bearing on you performing your role, which is represent the ratepayers of Alice springs, not be a hand winging apologist.


‘Bully method’ to swing Town Council vote on gallery
Good, scrap the bloody thing then.
I would rather loose a project like this than lose ANZAC Oval and be walked over by any government. Hopefully the councillors will all decline the invitation to meet with him unless it is a collective. He has no authority at all over the people we voted in.
Let him have his say in council, in public, at a regular meeting.


Art gallery: Door slammed on Desert Park
What an absolute joke.
You say preferred location, but the last count shows that that location was favored by only 40% of respondents, and never proposed as a preferred site by the steering committee.
Now you are seeking leaders not based on ability or experience or leadership, but first and foremost by the color of their skin?
In the rush to bow down to the PC gods, this minister, and her government, have fallen flat on their face on this issue.
This decision and location will greatly affect the amenity of the town, and take away one of the major sporting and social facilities this town has.
Once the grass has been ripped up, and the grandstands give a view over nothing, it will be a fait accompli.
We will have a massive white elephant sitting where one of our best sporting venues used to be, for what?
A decision that affects Alice Springs made by people who are not local and have no intention of actually listening to the people.
A poor decision made worse by the fact that the local people who know why it is the wrong spot are completely ignored. Disgusting.


Council: Aboriginal flag will fly but not the art gallery
@ JamesT: Also interesting there is no Australian Flag at the Central Land Council building, considering where the money comes from.
Would be interesting how many other Aboriginal organisations such as Congress, Womens Shelter and the visitors park at the showgrounds fly either flag.
For a nation of people who never had a tradition of flying a flag now demanding it is curious as well.
Jimmy’s comment is interesting as every other flag in town is lower than the ones on ANZAC Hill, are they then inferior to the ones on the hill? Very strange.


Pack of girls attacked me, says Chinese on working holiday
Would be interesting to see the outcome if Worksafe was contacted about this.
Absolutely the company has a duty to their employees, there should certainly be a policy dealing with the safety of employees departing late at night, especially where the hazards of this town are so well known.
Regardless, the employer has a duty to identify the risk and put controls in place, this would include making the staff finishing their shift aware of the risk to their health and safety by not having suitable transport home, and alternatives if transport was not available.
It could be a journey claim if the worker was traveling directly home at the completion of a shift.
A case in point is the woman attacked by the magpie, losing her eye on her way to work.
A joint responsibility between the employer and the shopping center, especially as the hazard had previously been identified.
There are additional duties imposed if it involves young or inexperienced workers.


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