Janet (Posted November 12, 2012 at 5:05 pm). Stop playing …

Comment on Indigenous adults must ‘grow up’ so that Indigenous children can depend on them, says Alison Anderson by Bob Durnan.

Janet (Posted November 12, 2012 at 5:05 pm). Stop playing these snide games with peoples’ reputations and self respect. Of course there are many people who declare royalty payments as income. If you know of anybody who has broken the law, you are duty bound to report them to the authorities. If you don’t know traditional owners who have broken these rules, and are making allegations against a group of people based on hearsay, simple suspicion or pure prejudice, then you need to apologise to them and stop making defamatory assertions. There are no separate laws applying to Aboriginal people on the matter of needing to declare royalties as income.

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Indigenous adults must ‘grow up’ so that Indigenous children can depend on them, says Alison Anderson
I see that my favourite verbal sparring partner Janet Brown (Posted November 14, 2012 at 9:43 pm) is still determined to insist that there are separate laws applying to Aboriginal people who receive welfare payments such as Newstart allowances and family payments. She seems to think they are not required by law to report all their other personal income (such as royalty payments) to Centrelink, every time they lodge an income statement.
Janet also appears to believe that Aboriginal people who don’t claim welfare entitlements but do receive royalties are not required by law to declare these royalties as income when they lodge their tax returns.
Janet, not unusually, is completely wrong in her assumptions.
On the available evidence, Janet possibly also believes that up is down, black is white, day is night, the earth is flat, and space is finite, but unless she is able to show me reasons why these things are true I wouldn’t be inclined to agree with her just because she says so.
However, I am quite confident that Janet and I both will be able to find legislation supporting my contentions if we want to spend the time looking up the relevant acts (I have spoken today to an expert in the field who assures me that I am on solid ground in saying this).
Thank goodness that nobody is relying on her for advice about how to conduct their personal business.
Once again, I say to Janet: If you know of anybody who has broken the law, you are duty bound to report them to the authorities. If you don’t know traditional owners who have broken the law, and are making allegations against a group of people based on hearsay, simple suspicion or pure prejudice, then you need to apologise to them and stop making defamatory assertions.
There are no separate laws applying to Aboriginal people on the matter of needing to declare royalties (or anything else) as income.


Indigenous adults must ‘grow up’ so that Indigenous children can depend on them, says Alison Anderson
Thanks for the advice Janet (Posted November 5, 2012 at 5:53 pm), but you are full of humbug. I’ll have a go at figuring out how your cranky statements relate to the arguments I put in my comment. And, by the way, not all traditional owners ‘live in squalor’ or fail to support their communities.
Another thing that will be even more amazing to you: many people on welfare do not ‘live in squalor’, and nor are they ‘welfare cheats’. Please stop inferring that ‘royalty recipients’ equals ‘welfare cheats’. Many do declare their income to Centrelink.


Indigenous adults must ‘grow up’ so that Indigenous children can depend on them, says Alison Anderson
Thanks William, I’ll have a read. If anybody else wants to do likewise, go to http://www.anao.gov.au/uploads/documents/Performance_Audit_of_Centrecorp_Aboriginal_Investment_Corporation_Pty_Ltd.pdf


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Alex, on June 22, 2017 at 11:44 am you said, and I quote: “If your PART-TIME advocacy programme co-ordinator did her job after this child’s court appearance in March, then he wouldn’t have appeared in court again in May.”
So you cast an aspersion on her. It is entirely unwarranted.
Don’t wriggle out, apologise.


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