Your point doesn’t hold water Paul (Paul Parker, Posted September …

Comment on Price turns back on Whitegate after using it in her election campaign: Lawrie by Bob Durnan.

Your point doesn’t hold water Paul (Paul Parker, Posted September 24, 2014 at 2:22 pm).
Whatever you may think of Tangentyere and the Alice Springs town camp housing associations, they were firm leaders in ensuring their tenants paid rent and electricity bills regularly throughout the 1980s.
There is no reason to believe that the Irrkerlantye / Whitegate group would have been any different.
The ADC (and later ATSIC) were prepared to stump up capital grants for development of essential services and housing, as they did for the development of the new leases at Karnte and Ilpiye Ilpiye during that period.

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Price turns back on Whitegate after using it in her election campaign: Lawrie
A few people have asked me why the CLP governments of the day failed to act on the original lease applications by the the Whitegate group’s Irrkerlantye-Akerte Aboriginal Corporation in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
This is a bit of a puzzle, as the Hatton government did grant special purpose leases to two other town camp housing associations in the late 1980s: the Ilpiye Ilpiye and Karnte Aboriginal Corporations.
However those two groups had become incorporated years ealier, and I think they had already applied for leases years before.
The Whitegate group – like the Namatjira group on Lovegrove Drive – were a bit later than the other groups in deciding to go that route.
It seems to me that the Whitegate lease applicants of the time (Myra Hayes and a large group of co-residents) were hit by a set of political problems which combined to create a triple whammy against them.
One was the rise in influence within the Alice Springs CLP of people who took a hard line against the existence of the town camps (and the spread of Aboriginal land rights), and wanted them dismantled; these people included the hard rightwing MLA for Sadadeen, Dennis Collins, who later left the CLP to sit as a far rightwing independent, because the CLP was too moderate for him.
Another major factor was the dominant idea, amongst some politicians and / or town planning people, that Alice Springs needed to expand in an easterly direction, and establish a new satellite town (“Undoolya”) between the Whitegate area and the Undoolya Station lease boundary.
A third factor was the growing perception that the development of the town camp leases over the previous decade had been leading to growth and entrenchment of “the drinking culture”, and its associated addictions, illnesses, violence and social dysfunctionality.


Price turns back on Whitegate after using it in her election campaign: Lawrie
I think what happened, Paul Parker, (Posted September 17, 2014 at 6:18 pm), was that after the lodging of the Lhere Artepe group’s Native Title claim in the mid-90s, leasing and development of vacant Crown land (within the Alice Springs town boundary) was effectively frozen.
As the claim was successful, this freezing has continued up until the present.
The ball was henceforth in Lhere Artepe Aboriginal Corporation’s court.
The Labor Government negotiated with LAAC for the development of some mainstream housing estates and other works, but LAAC – for whatever reasons – seems to have chosen not to put the Whitegate settlement on the bargaining table. LAAC is now under new leadership, and its approach to this matter looks like it is changing.


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Ruth Gibbins (Posted January 23, 2019 at 7:55 pm): Monika Billen was not at Trephina Gorge, the park reserve about 85 km east of Alice, where the German couple, the Thors, died from thirst or exposure 12 months ago.
Monika visited a different park reserve, Emily Gap, which is only about 10 km east of Alice. She seemingly walked there by herself on a very hot day, above 40 degrees centigrade.
Monika was apparently found under a tree in a rugged area, well away from the road, about three km back towards Alice from that small gorge.
So she died in the bush about seven km east of Alice, but in the bush, off the road.
There is no established walking track through the bush from Emily Gap to Alice.
Sadly, Monika had been missing for a week before anybody realised that she had not returned from her walk to and from Emily gap, along a non-designated route, in the extreme heat.


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InterestedDarwinObserver (Posted January 24, 2019 at 8:52 am): Your statement is highly confusing. Are you really saying that Bruce is like a perpetual victim, identity politician and social justice warrior, and that Sandra Nelson MLA stood him up? I know that Bruce has been a bit of an anti-fracking warrior, but I would have thought that your description of him is a bit excessive.


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Evelyne Roullet (Posted January 16, 2019 at 6:30 pm): Re your question “Why does a Federal Government help a Labor Government?”
I could just as well ask: “Why shouldn’t a Federal Government help a Labor Government, or any other type of government, for that matter?”
Federal governments of both persuasions help state and territory governments in all manner of ways all the time, and why shouldn’t they?


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New Tech (Posted January 17, 2019 at 8:38 am): The police announced early in the search that they were making very extensive use of drone technology.


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Evelyne (Posted below on January 14, 2019 at 10:15 am) says rhetorically: “Is there a law dictating how much alcohol can be carried in a vehicle? No!”
I have no idea whether Evelyne is correct, but it is evident that she is not aware of the powers conferred on NT police (and now on the NT Police Auxiliary Liquor Inspectors, aka PALIs) by a new Commonwealth law enacted by John Howard’s Federal Liberal-National Party Coalition government in September 2007. (The Federal law was immediately confirmed by the then NT Government in complementary amendments to its NT Liquor Act).
From that time NT police have been empowered to seize, and keep or destroy, any alcohol when they judge that the person in possession of it may be intending to illegally on-sell it and/or has no intention of consuming it in a place where it is legal to consume alcohol.
This power has formed the basis for almost all the POSI, TBL and PALI activities outside liquor outlets since they were first introduced by police under the Henderson Labor government in May 2012, up to the present day.
So Evelyne, the amount of alcohol in a vehicle is irrelevant. The powers of police to make a judgement about the situation are the key factor.
As for Ms Roullet’s opinion that “People should learn to control their environment”, it is hard to disagree. What an excellent “motherhood statement”.
It is even harder to fathom how Evelyne thinks this might begin to happen, in any constructive, sustainable and just manner, without the great help of the PALIs using the special powers conferred on them back in 2007, especially in relation to those people who are generally the main victims of alcohol-fuelled mayhem and waste: Infants, other children, many women, the weak, the infirm and the elderly. Do you think they should all be trained in the martial arts and issued with tazers and mustard gas, Evelyne?
Under exactly what circumstances do you think people would be able or likely to “learn to control their environment” if they were again engulfed in a tsunami of alcohol, Evelyne?
Would you be there to throw life jackets to the victims of the excessive drinkers?
Or would you prefer to let the survival of the fittest apply, and more generations of children fail to get a fair start in life?


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