To Alyeperenye: I don’t think I’ve ever read such ill …

Comment on Alice Festival of Light coming out of the dark by Perrurle.

To Alyeperenye: I don’t think I’ve ever read such ill informed crap in all my life. It is mind boggling how wrong your comments are, and the unfortunate thing is there are so many other Aboriginal people around here who have never bothered to find out the deep intricacies of Anpernerirrentye (kinship) and just how crucial that is to an individual’s links / connection to land, whether it be as an Apmereke-artweye or Kwertengwerle.
Jacinta is not making a claim to be a kwertengwerle for Mparntwe but if she was, either her Atyemeye or Ipmenhe (MF, MM) would have to belong to Mparntwe as she does not have an Arrenge or Aperle (FF/FM).
That goes for anyone.
Just living here or growing up here does not imply you have any connection at all to the traditional estates.
Penangke rightly points out that unless your Aperle, Atyemeye or Ipmenhe were apmereke-artweye for Mparntwe and belonged to the Kngwarraye/Peltharre subsection or someone further back on your family tree did, then you have no claim.
Also, unless you are knowledgeable, partake in ceremonies and the ongoing maintenance of country, culture, sites, songs etc of a traditional estate, then you have a very shallow claim compared to those that do!
You demonstrate the problem with some of our people today. They take a non-Aboriginal world view and try to adopt it and massage it to suit their needs, whether it be for monetary gain, an outstation, or anything else just because they think they are “Traditional Owners”.
This is an insult to the people who live and breath their culture and languages, who understand traditional governance and kinship and who are the real apmereke-artweyes and Kwertengwerles. These are the people who should be listened to when it comes to talking for estates.

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Alice Festival of Light coming out of the dark
Interesting also that Ms. Price was involved at all. She lays the boots into her people / culture for all to see on social media and on TV and was recently quoted on a prominent talk back show that “We should forget about 40,000 years (of culture)…”
She doesn’t know what team she plays for.


Recent Comments by Perrurle

Jacinta Price spits dummy
Re Alan: Naw, it sucks when you find out your hero ain’t all she’s cracked up to be, hey?


Jacinta Price spits dummy
Hello … where are all her blind supporters who profess she “speaks the truth”.
Send this through to The Australian, Herald Sun, Mark Latham, KAK etc.
Unfortunately Erwin, you are another in a long line who have been on the receiving end of her bully tactics.
Another dummy spit from someone who lacks maturity and clear thought processes, yet seeks fame, fortune and self promotion.


Jacinta Price: 4 year commitment lasted 18 months
When are people in our camp going to see this for what it is?
We’ve heard lots of talk, rants, seen the self promotion, social media posts and interviews but zero solutions.
She isn’t an on ground community person actually doing the hard yards in DV, families and children, community health, policy etc.
If elected it’ll be another disappointment.


Gallery swap: Aborigines second in pecking order
For heaven’s sake. Why on earth would you place the gallery anywhere other than the Anzac Oval site?
South of The Gap, oh right – easy to commute to for tourists and town people then? It would become yet another white elephant and other failed project we can attribute to a lack of imagination.
For its economic success it needs to be near to the CBD, walking distance to cafes, restaurants, hotels and be easily accessible for potential employees to help run the place!
The project has potential to give an economic boost to the CBD where it is desperately needed.
While on one hand these “old minds” complain about the lack of economic activity in the town, shops closing etc, on the other they propose to put the gallery out in the sticks?
How does this make any sense?
There are no cultural considerations to the Anzac Oval site either, given that there are no sacred sites in the current planning area and if anything, provisions could be made as part of this project to better protect those that do exist nearby with weed management, rubbish collection etc.
And don’t give us the Anzac Oval Heritage Story. No-one gives a hoot who used to play footy on or use that oval in the 50s.
The fact is the future generations will benefit from good decision making now!


Can government afford cultural discord gallery is creating?  
Gallery debate aside, Arrernte custom follows patrilinieal line in talking for country.
It has always been this way. It is still acknowledged by knowledgeable senior women and men.
Benedict Stevens is the male apmereke-artweye for Alice Springs. A big responsibility falls on his shoulders for many different issues that people would not see, especially in the current day contemporary Aborigine politics and constant badgering for consultation over town developments and issues.


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