We live in a very strange world: We cannot smack the …

Comment on Dylan Voller’s mistreatment started in Alice Springs by Evelyne Roullet.

We live in a very strange world:
We cannot smack the children when they are naughty; we cannot have a curfew to keep them off the streets; but we can torture them when they become criminals.
No, Original Centralian, it is not “alright for these ‘children’ to hold our town to ransom, forcing the citizens of Alice Springs to lock themselves into their homes after the sun goes down every night”.
But neither is the treatment they received at the detention center.

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Dylan Voller’s mistreatment started in Alice Springs
Yes Phil, and we should also keep in mind that quite often the misbehaviour of a child is a cry for help.
When a child misbehaves, we need to weigh up factors such as context, background and timing before deciding how to react. Many children are being punished for behaviour they cannot control, or that has justifiable cause.
There could be a number of reasons for misbehaviour:
To gain attention.
Lack of skills to deal with the situation differently.
Forgetting the rules or limits.
Children need limits. They need safe rules within which they can make choices, have responsibility and experience success.
Limits must be clear and consistent! Inconsistency leaves children uncertain about what they can and cannot do.
“It’s not my fault!” Blaming others is modeled for the children on a daily basis: by adults, their peers, in the news etc.
We just have to listen to our so called leaders who put responsibility aside and put the blame of any bad situation during their mandate on their predecessors!

Dylan Voller’s mistreatment started in Alice Springs
@ Fred the Philistine, Quote: “I agree children should not be bashed around, but if they want to act like animals then maybe they should be treated like one”. End of quote.
Cruaulty to animals is not permitted in our country. May be we should ask the RSPCA to take over the management of our detention centers, and the prisoners will be treated with dignity.
Words of some Australian leader Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull: “We have very, very strong animal welfare standards.
“We condemn cruelty to animals – full stop.”
Greyhound racing will be banned in New South Wales from July 1 next year, with Premier Mike Baird saying the “widespread and systemic mistreatment of animals” cannot be tolerated.
I will copy the words of Alveda King, niece of Martin Luther King, because I believe that racism is the biggest saddest factor in this drama: “Racism oppresses its victims, but also binds the oppressors, who sear their consciences with more and more lies until they become prisoners of those lies. They cannot face the truth of human equality because it reveals the horror of the injustices they commit.”
Too many Territorians are still coming out of the first fleets.

Dylan Voller’s mistreatment started in Alice Springs
Maybe we should model our system Norway’s.

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Pack of girls attacked me, says Chinese on working holiday
Laurence, accept my apology for your my remarks about your pseudonym. I suppose I was upset by your rich colorful language telling me that I am an idiot because of my beliefs: “Usual useful idiots chanting that it takes the whole of a village to raise a child.” Your quote, not mine! So I thought if I need to be insulted I want to know the person who does it; fair?
I quote Hillary Clinton to show that “village” does not mean buildings, but “community”.

Pack of girls attacked me, says Chinese on working holiday
I have questions for Maccas supervisor and staff:
• She started at 10pm and the shift ended at 2am on Sunday. She must be tired.
• When she left she discovered her bike had been stolen. Does Maccas have no secure parking for staff?
• So she set out on foot to the home of a friend in the Old Eastside, where she is staying. Could anyone, as she was not alone, have given her a lift? Or called a taxi? I was under impression that it was the employer’s responsibility to insure the safety of their employees.

Pack of girls attacked me, says Chinese on working holiday
@ Karen. Hillary Clinton:”Twenty years ago, I wrote a book called ‘It Takes a Village.’ And a lot of people looked at the title and asked, ‘What the heck do you mean by that?’ This is what I mean. None of us can raise a family, build a business, heal a community or lift a country totally alone.”

Pack of girls attacked me, says Chinese on working holiday
@Thea “In any other country, you just can’t imagine how a group of kids can be so evil”? In all countries included Australia.“Youth violence is a global public health problem. It includes a range of acts from bullying and physical fighting, to more severe sexual and physical assault to homicide.” WHO (World Health Organisation)
I have been attacked in Sydney by a gang of white girls and in full day light; attacked on the platform of a Brisbane train station by a gang of young boys, once again white and full day light. Evil is everywhere;but it does not mean we cannot do something about it. I believe a curfew should at least be tried.

@Dr Who I agree :”It is hard by yourself sometimes, but not impossible”. I myself single handed raised 4 kids in this town, all in their 50s now, but what a call. The village was with me like it was with you even if you did not realise it because if your boys were so young you must have had help when you were working: neighbours, teachers, police officers etc all those people who make a “village”.

“Although there are no national data on youth gangs in Australia there is a perception that youth gangs are an emerging problem. This paper draws largely on overseas attempts to deal with gang related activity and the extent to which they have been successful. The most successful interventions have some combination of coercive and developmental measures. A key issue for both policy makers and practitioners is the weight given to particular measures within the context of an overall strategy”. From Australian Institute of Criminology: Trends & Issues in Crime and Criminal Justice No. 274.

Pack of girls attacked me, says Chinese on working holiday
Laurence: I am one of those useful idiots chanting that it takes the whole of a village to raise a child.
But, Laurence, this idiot has the guts to put her name to her posts. How can we take advice from an anonymous source? And who knows, the village could be healthier with people proud of their ideas and opinions?
You cannot publish your name? Because of your job? Your family? Get rid of them if this stops you to be true to yourself.
It takes the whole of a village to raise a child does not mean that the village has no rules. To the contrary. A village has expectations, behaviours, boundaries.
Breach of rules and crimes must be punished.

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