Dean has a point about Jacinta type people. Her mother said …

Comment on Alice councillor tells nation’s media about Aboriginal brutality by Peter.

Dean has a point about Jacinta type people.
Her mother said exactly the same things and when it came to the test she failed to improve the lives of Aboriginal people she claimed to represent.
The vote against her in places like Willowra was overwhelming.
I saw Bess’s election stand, lots of countrymen recruited to speak for her.
Down the street was the opposition, a white fella.
Where was the crowd?
The people were ignoring Bess and listening to the opposition, they said we are not fooled just because she is black.
Jacinta will need to prove herself and that is a lot harder than speaking out against violence.
And until she does no-one should pay her much attention.
As her mother found out talk is cheap, you have to walk the walk.

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Alice councillor tells nation’s media about Aboriginal brutality
@ Jacinta. With respect to Bess claiming that jail is good for Aborigional men you say that “Hers was a call for help. We have to do something about the lives our young people are leading to keep them alive and OUT OF JAIL”.
Unfortunately, Bess made those comments in support of mandatory sentencing while voting it into law. So speaking out to keep people out of jail doesn’t really fit with supporting mandatory sentencing that sent a lot more people to jail. Much more likely Giles was hell bent on a law and order policy and Bess followed along, did what she was told.
That was a test she failed and it cost her dearly.
You really shouldn’t defend cutting off the water to Whitegate and I doubt your claims to ties with the Hayes family will be appreciated by them.
Felicity and her extended family have lived at Whitegate for generations and there are stories there going back forever, trees, rocks and hills with mythological meaning.
Rod Moss has a long association with Whitegate and said at the time that “contrary to an assurance by government front bencher Bess Price, the government is determined to force the ‘Whitegate mob’ out and resettle them in Hidden Valley.
It is a town camp notorious for its violence and inhabited by people with whom the Hayes have a traditional animosity”.
You say that your mother was obliged by law to shut Whitegate down. So Giles put your mother in a cruel situation where she had to choose which side of the fence she stood on, with him and his destructive policies or with an impoverished group of Aboriginal people. What a heroine she would have been if she had said “no” and left her ministry.
Bess would still be in office today if she had refused to support mandatory sentencing and spat the dummy on cutting off water to Whitegate.
But she did what Giles told her to do and supported some of the most brutal policies that we have ever seen in the NT. Then she was voted into obscurity.
By defending these actions Jacinta you are starting down the same path and that’s why I’m somewhat rudely interrupting your fine words about Aboriginal domestic violence.


Alice councillor tells nation’s media about Aboriginal brutality
@ Jacinta. I’m a coward, a Labor troll and have an enormous chip on my shoulder.
You are speaking out about domestic violence which is fine and furthering your political interests at the same time.
It’s the latter I question.
That’s the same route to power your mother took before she was exposed and voted out of office.
You are claiming to represent your people and defending the record of your mother and yourself so let’s get away from generalisations.
Two questions need a response:-
Why did your mother state that jail is good for Aboriginal men?
Why did she she cut the water supply off from Irrkelantye?
I strongly disagreed with Bess regarding the benefits of imprisonment.
I joined the protest outside your mother’s office after she cut the water supply off and I believe that her action was shameful for anyone let alone an Aboriginal politician.
I stand by my opposition to the above and urge you to do the same.
I know this would take courage on your part but I believe it is essential.
Just a word on the claim that voters were tricked into voting against your mother and people on communities have told you as much.
That’s called reconciliation Jacinta, they voted against your mother but they want to keep the peace with you.
That’s the way it works in Aboriginal society, it’s a great strength.
They are giving you a chance to prove yourself.


Alice councillor tells nation’s media about Aboriginal brutality
@ Jacinta. So Bess lost her seat because the voters were tricked, eh?
In 2013 Bess supported mandatory sentencing that sent Aboriginal prison rates through the roof.
At the time she said that jail is good for Aboriginal people.
Some Aboriginal people disagreed with her and voted against her.
A year later she cut the water supply off from Irrkelantye, an impoverished town camp but a safe space, in the midst of traditional country and surrounded by sacred sites.
The United Nations said this was outrageous – “an affront to human rights”.
Bess was unmoved.
Out on communities people complained bitterly they never saw Bess once she was elected.
They held the view that she came to power on the backs on Aboriginal people but then ignored them and sold out to Giles.
I have never heard of any smear campaign and one wasn’t needed to unseat her.
Bess ruined her own re election prospects.
Now you are singing from the same song sheet and complaining that a Labor troll is trying to silence an Aboriginal woman.
Much as you might wish that someone was trying to silence you, no one is.
But keep in mind that winning and keeping the Aboriginal vote is a lot harder than winning support from white fellas by speaking out about violence.


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At last, public will get a say on Anzac Oval: Town Council
Gunner has made the right call on the location of the proposed gallery and offered substantial funding.
No other sensible and economically viable location has been proposed.
The gallery will probably operate at a loss as does the Desert Park.
To be sustainable the loss must be minimised and it must add value to our tourist businesses.
South of the Gap / at the Desert Part are not suitable locations.
The Greens are engaged in misguided economically damaging democracy.
They are doing the same by using their position on the Water Board to slow down mining development at Mt Pearce.
This action threatens the offer of generous funding.


The millions and the misery
Eugene’s Mate: “Unreasonably negative and incorrigibly antagonistic attitude towards Congress pathological denial of Congress’s achievements? Very unfairly, maligning Congress.”
Any organisation that gets more than $40m a year of taxpayer money, has $20m unspent and has a stake in CentreCorp with assets of more than $50m absolutely needs to be held accountable.
It worries me that you fall back on excuses such as saying that poverty is the main driver of renal disease (and of course Congress can’t change that).
How about, a sedentary lifestyle, living in squalor, poor diet, alcohol and smoking, all of which Congress should be able to do something about.
But they haven’t despite all the millions.
A new approach is needed.
Take diabetes:
Although there are other factors, diabetes is a major cause of end stage renal disease. Many of us have watched the progression from diabetes to end stage over the years.
I’ve personally seen it a dozen times or more.
Uncontrolled diabetes is rampant in our community and the deaths are mounting.
Congress has largely failed to stem the tide so we need to try something else.
That is a medical approach.
Instead of expensively trying to change behaviour and failing we need new drugs and medical devices.
That means more money for research and probably less for Congress.
Of course that is confronting and will get the reaction we see from you.
But Aboriginal health is bigger than Congress and is the priority.
A medical approach has the potential to save many hundreds of millions of dollars and improve Aboriginal lives on a large scale.
That claim cannot be made about Congress.


The millions and the misery
Evelyne, the research to quantify the extent of HTLV-1 was carried out years ago and the results were scary for Aboriginal people.
There will be a large death toll in coming years.
Very little is being done to discover a drug to treat it.
Your question has broader implications.
Should the taxpayer keep funding preventative programs to the extent we do when they are not working?
Wouldn’t Aboriginal health be improved far more by putting the money into the development of medical responses.
For example, there is an urgent need for implanted insulin delivery devices that require diabetics to do nothing.
There are several life threatening diseases, HTLV-1 being just one, that urgently need medical approaches such as drug treatments for prevention and/or cure.
Aboriginal health would be improved far more by redirecting at least some of the tens of millions wasted on Congress to researching new treatments.


The millions and the misery
Eugene’s Mate: Let’s cut to the chase.
The result of a failure of type two diabetes prevention and control programs is often end stage renal disease.
So the incidence of this terminal disease is a good measure of the success or failure of diabetes programs for which Congress has responsibility.
The NT has the highest incidence and prevalence of kidney disease in Australia.
The 2014 Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) National Health Survey showed the prevalence of disease markers amongst Indigenous Australians in the Northern Territory was 40% and non-Indigenous of 9%.
According to Menzies School of Health research “demand for dialysis has been sustained and incidence rates have not plateaued”.
In other words the incidence of end stage disease is out of control despite the tens of millions of funding provided to Congress.
Tens of millions now have to be poured into dialysis treatment.
Soon it will be hundreds of millions as the numbers of patients is soaring.
I am unable to agree that Congress has long been a leader and good practitioner in prevention and early intervention strategies and practices.


Three men escape from gaol
Paul Parker: Yes, low level security is appropriate but only for low security prisoners.
The prison is overcrowded and holding far more prisoners than its design capacity.
Medium security prisoners cannot always be housed in the medium security section of the prison.
They are sometimes sent to the low security cottages.
Similarly only low security prisoners are supposed to be in work gangs etc, but we see from escapes that this is not always the case.
This mistake cost CEO Ken Middlebrook his job but it could happen again.
So while low security is appropriate for low security prisoners it is highly inappropriate for medium security ones.


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