Police on hunt for young men after ramraid this morning

p2392-cctv-ram-raidPolice are calling for public assistance in finding a group of young men who are alleged to have stolen a white Ford Ranger on January 5 and used it this morning in a ram raid of a business.

 

Detective Superintendent Michael White released CCTV images.

 

He urges anyone with information to contact police on 131 444.

 

 

– Police release.

 

UPDATE JANUARY 9:

 

Police have charged a 17-year-old in relation to a ram raid in Alice Springs on 6 January.

 

Detective Senior Sergeant Allan Milner said the male was arrested yesterday.

 

Police allege that on January 5 he stole a Ford Ranger from a caravan park in Alice Springs, he says.

 

“It is further alleged that the offender, in the company of others, drove the car into a business in Alice Springs on January 6, before fleeing the scene.”

 

 

UPDATE January 18:

 

Police have charged a 14-year-old male following a series of property crimes in Alice Springs between  January 3 and 15.

 

Detective Superintendent Michael White says that the youth allegedly unlawfully entered four properties.

“On January 3 the offender unlawfully entered a business in Northside, with co-offenders,” he said.

 

“On January 6, the offender and co-offenders ram raided a business in Northside.

 

“On January 15 the offender and co-offenders broke into a business on Kennett Court.

 

“Shortly thereafter, the group unlawfully entered a business on Schwarz Crescent.”

 

He was charged with four charges each for unlawful entry of a building, damage property, stealing and aggravated unlawful use of motor vehicle.

 

He was remanded in custody to appear in the Alice Springs Local Youth Court today.

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  1. Just Saying
    Posted January 11, 2017 at 11:26 am

    Are the crimes being committed because these people are Aboriginal? Is there something about Aboriginal people that makes them naturally a criminal or are there other factors contributing?
    I know quite a lot of Aboriginal people who are not out of control, who have jobs care for their children, respect the law etc. Is there something wrong with them that makes them so law abiding?

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  2. Posted January 11, 2017 at 9:19 am

    @ Hal: It seems to me that political correctness (PC) is an attitude towards an issue, subject or topic.
    To be able to say and write what one means is the basis of freedom of expression.
    The Racial Discrimination Act has had a bit of a caning lately over political correctness within the Human Rights Commission, who also have spoken quite clearly.
    It is when rights are enshrined in law that democracy comes to the fore to challenge or debate.
    As an attitude is a cluster formed around a value system, it is therefore subject to deconstruction in the interests of clarity of expression and meaning.
    This forum serves that purpose, but as the Racial Discrimination Act legislates, there are restrictions on freedom of expression.
    Incitement to violence is one example.
    Much else is subjective and therefore considered, at times, to be politically correct or incorrect.
    Happy Rest and Reflection.

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  3. Michael Dean
    Posted January 10, 2017 at 9:54 am

    Remember when the CLP were campaigning for Government and their promise was to reduce crime (as a whole) by 10% a year? No wonder we kicked them out, we all knew it was a load of rot.

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  4. Posted January 10, 2017 at 9:37 am

    I heard this story on ABC radio a week ago – http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-03/program-helps-rehabilitate-indigenous-offenders-dubbo/8159564?WT.ac=localnews_westernplains and I suggest it provides plenty of food for thought for all of us.

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  5. Hal Duell
    Posted January 10, 2017 at 9:16 am

    How To Undermine Democracy 101:
    A) Dumb down the population (has anyone tried watching ABC lately?)
    B) Enshrine the vacuity of pop culture.
    C) Make political correctness the benchmark for acceptable public comment.
    D) Dump all dissenting journalistic endeavor and public opinion in the fake news basket.
    Alice Springs News Online deserves credit for bucking this trend, but they are in the minority.
    Off topic, but here’s a prediction: Donald Trump will be a good president, good for the US and good for the world. Admittedly after the mendacity of the Obama regime, the task can hardly be considered onerous.
    Is this politically incorrect? I do hope so. Censors have ever brought out the contrary in me.

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  6. Mabel
    Posted January 10, 2017 at 5:10 am

    FASD, child protection services, justice systems, health services, these are many services that are bursting at the seams and sadly Aboriginal people are being represented by a majority.
    The Aboriginal person knows only how to want and want more. When do they start contributing to their own wonderful culture and also contributing to the best interests of a place like Alice Springs?

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  7. Evelyne Roullet
    Posted January 9, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    Yes, Ray, we have problems with juvenile crimes, and I have acknowledge this plenty of time, and I do what I can to help. You can find all about me, what I do and stand for, because I use my name; you do not, neither are Mabel and Fred.
    You are telling me that “I am not, nor is anybody talking about full blood, half caste or octaroon, these concepts went out years ago”. So what were you implying by: “So because he had a much lighter complexion than the others, you assume he was not Aboriginal?”
    If those concepts are gone, why talking of Aborigines instead of stating that few teenagers run-raid IGA?
    By the way the concept of races is also gone, therefore Mabel and Fred cannot be accused to be racists because there is no race. So let’s talk about juvenile behaviour and crimes.
    Quote: “Your comments simply move the comment away from the real problem, you criticise people who make an observation so that people who actually give a damn to speak out and vent their frustration are effectively shut down for fear of being labeled a racist” end of your quote.
    And I repeat my question: When did I criticise or show disrespect to Mabel and Fred?

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  8. Ray
    Posted January 9, 2017 at 1:20 pm

    Evelyn, I am not, nor is anybody talking about full blood, half caste or octaroon, these concepts went out years ago.
    I never mentioned part Aborgininality, only you. My comments were directed at Russell and you equally. just think about the effect of your comment, Mabel and Fred simply said that Aboriginal people are out of control.
    Incarceration rates, conviction rates, court lists and the photos in this very article show that the vast majority of problems are as Fred and Mable described, but your contribution is to split hairs and criticising them for making a generalised statement, although a very accurate one.
    Your comments simply move the comment away from the real problem, you criticise people who make an observation so that people who actually give a damn to speak out and vent their frustration are effectively shut down for fear of being labeled a racist.
    Who cares if only one of them was white? As I said, look at the court lists, look at the incarceration rates, look at the family dysfunction, look at the kids roaming the streets at night, look at the rock throwers, look at the people breaking into the town’s licensed premises, and tell me that non-Indigenous are equally to blame. Fred and Mable are not afraid to say look, here is the problem, neither am I.
    Maybe if you spend less time pulling them up about not being 100% accurate, and more time adding to the growing voices saying here is the problem, let’s fix it, we will get the help we need.
    For those ho seek to silence those who have the guts to say what the problem is, I reiterate, yes, this is part of the problem.

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  9. R Henry
    Posted January 8, 2017 at 11:33 pm

    I remember the Liberals, when they were asking for office again, telling us they would fix PC so that meaningful discussion could be effected on this subject but as usual it does not happen.

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  10. Evelyne Roullet
    Posted January 8, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    @ Ray: Where and how did I show disrespect to Mabel and Fred ?
    I asked a fair question:”Mabel and Fred, how do you know that the driver and all involved were Aborigines?”
    Quote: “People should care and respect what Fred and Mabel have to say because they have the guts to speak up and say what is obvious.” End of quote.
    I agree but please show me the same respect. I have been in the Territory since 1971 and I know the difference between a full blood Aborigine and and full blood white.
    I have the right to express my point of view without be called names.
    I hope I am a do-good person and if I am the only problem that Alice has, all is well.
    I quote you: “If not you have just confirmed you are part of the problem” – is this showing me respect?

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  11. Ray
    Posted January 8, 2017 at 10:50 am

    So because he had a much lighter complexion than the others, you assume he was not Aboriginal?
    At the end of the day, Fred and Mabel make a statement, and you come out with the same old do-gooder, apologist question.
    They never said that all the perpetrators were Aboriginal, they said that it was a problem. Even if what you say is true, that one is white, 75% of the offenders are indeed Indigenous. They accurately addressed the problem.
    As far as Russell saying they can get away with lack of respect because they aren’t respected, what a load of absolute rubbish.
    Not respected? How? Who said they were expected to be the perfect example to the rest of humanity? Only you, Russell.
    People should care and respect what Fred and Mabel have to say because they have the guts to speak up and say what is obvious.
    The elders I have spoken to have said they would “take the little buggers out bush and flog ’em, them make ’em walk home, don’t care what colour they are”.
    Maybe that’s a bit drastic, but its what some elders have said to me.
    But hey Russell, why should anyone, Aboriginal or Boofhead even care, much less respect, what Aboriginal elders have to say?

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  12. Evelyne Roullet
    Posted January 7, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    @ Ray: I’m not stirring anything, just stating my observations. I live near the store and I also have watched a group of four teenagers passing a few time around the block, one came in the drive away of my neighbougr and I confronted him.
    Three were Aborigines, one was white.
    Now, I do not say they are the guilty ones, I just make a comment that may be the guilty ones of the break-in were not all Aborigines.

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  13. Ray
    Posted January 7, 2017 at 1:54 pm

    @ Evelyne: Surely you are just stirring the pot? If not you have just confirmed you are part of the problem, as unless we are prepared to say what the problem is, we cannot fix it.
    Sit at the local juvenile court every day and watch those that are called to appear, tried then convicted, then tell me that Mabel is wrong.
    The stats that I have heard is that 90% of underage offending is committed by Indigenous perpetrators.
    I’m not expecting that we can fix it all, but even if the rate of offending was only double that of non-indigenous, we would be making enormous inroads.
    Maybe what Fred and Mabel are saying is that 90% of the crime being is being committed by the group that makes up only 30% of the population.
    I know you can twist statistics, and welcome you trying to twist those ones to suit your own agenda whatever that is.
    By denying the problem you are denying the solution. Unfortunately there are none so blind as those who will not see.

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  14. Observer
    Posted January 7, 2017 at 1:37 pm

    If a person is unable to call a spade a spade (the police have released multiple photos of multiple offenders) then how exactly can we expect to accurately implement the myriad of discriminatory Government policies and laws under the guise of affirmative action?
    Here’s a tip for 2017: Improve your job prospects and help your children have an equal opportunity of a government or trade job / apprenticeship. Tick the indigenous box.
    As the comment below indicates, if it is racist to presume an Indigenous person to be Indigenous, the same overly PC attitude applies to presuming a white person is not Indigenous.
    2017 – tick the box, break the system!

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  15. Posted January 7, 2017 at 1:31 pm

    Why should Aboriginal people have respect for their own people when no other group of people on the planet has respect for theirs?
    Why are they expected to be the perfect example to the rest of humanity’s motley crew of dunderheads?
    Is it because Mabel and Fred are racist in their view? Surely not.
    Why should anyone, Aboriginal or Boofhead even care, much less respect, what Fred and Mabel have to say?
    Why do we refer to Aboriginal people as a cohesive group when nothing could be further from the truth?
    The truth is that we are all a bunch of (fill in your own descriptor).
    Happy Rest & Reflection.

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  16. Evelyne Roullet
    Posted January 7, 2017 at 9:45 am

    Mabel and Fred, how do you know that the driver and all involved were Aborigines?

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  17. Fred the Philistine
    Posted January 7, 2017 at 7:39 am

    Well said, Mabel.

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  18. Mabel
    Posted January 6, 2017 at 7:40 pm

    The hard truth: Aboriginal people are out of control. A total disrespect for the community of Alice Springs, but above all no respect for their own people.
    Just want and take. Give nothing back!

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