Yeh Micheal, and who do you suppose decides when we …

Comment on The West MacDonnell Ranges start at the council dump by Steve Brown.

Yeh Micheal, and who do you suppose decides when we need something? You? Your comments clearly demonstrate a bleak negative mindset as far as a town is concerned so it will probably come as quite a shock to you that many of us actually love the place believe in it and its future, we work very hard to make it a better place.
But mate, you can’t please everyone and if your’e so down in the mouth about us that all you can contribute is a stream of negative comments, do yourself and our town a favour move somewhere else.
If you haven’t already done so that is.
@ Hal: Pretty unhelpful comment to get into the new year … almost a wasted opportunity wouldn’t you say?
Melanka and the Ilparpa Valley are simply opportunities in the waiting, Hal.
No-one has quite been able to get these projects across the line just yet but its simply a matter of when, so please try not to be so bloody negative about it all. Negative people create negative towns!

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The West MacDonnell Ranges start at the council dump
@ Hal: Yeh, Hal I’m with you on that. I love the New Court House and having had the benefit of a site tour I can tell you that the top floor and its view, is to die for… make a fantastic restaurant.
Michael Sitzler and family are to be congratulated on a wonderful project and more particularly on his demonstrated belief in our community by making such a huge financial investment in its future, continuing I might add, a long family tradition.
As for the walk way, well its another wonderful infrastructure asset not so much to my taste visually but as with everything it’s a matter of personal preference.
Thanks NT Government – it’s a great asset to our community.
@ Micheal: Why you waiting for the election? Are you proposing to contribute something positive like running for council?
I hope you do, we are always looking for those willing to put up their hands and contribute to the decision making processes of their community. Will be looking out for your name on the hustings.
@ James: Not quite sure what your comment means but I’m not “telling” Micheal to leave, just suggesting that if it makes him so miserable perhaps he should.
Oh, and I was referring to a number of past comments not just the one to this particular article.


The West MacDonnell Ranges start at the council dump
I enthusiastically support the ideas put forward in this article, developing a tourist precinct south of the Gap incorporating the magnificent Heavitree Range / Mt Gillen.
I would also like to see the sewage recycled and the garbage shifted. The real estate they occupy is way too spectacular and valuable for such a mundane use.
There is no doubt this fabulous concept would enhance our tourist product attracting more visitors and encouraging them to stay longer.
However, this will in not lessen the need for a CBD upgrade and enhancement through projects like the combined Uniting Church council car park project. It will in fact accentuate the need for such a project, making our CBD a better safer cleaner place for visitors and locals alike.
I was somewhat bemused by the negative comments from some on the last Alice Springs News Online article about the council carpark / Uniting Church project, all comments made –astoundingly – without any of the commenters having sighted a concept plan!
Having had the benefit of doing so I can assure you the project is a very exciting one which would breathe new life into our embattled CBD.
The project isn’t just about car parking! It’s about bringing forward the inevitable and in fact already overdue, necessity to expand parking in the CBD.
It is doing this now to facilitate the much larger project, integrating our parking into the wider Uniting Church project in an innovative way.
This is a one-off opportunity to create something really special for the centre of our CBD. Whether or not we hold some idealism about not having carparks and motor vehicles in our CBD, no sane developer would build a project like this without them.
Why? Because 98% of our residents drive and wish to continue driving their motor vehicles!
Councils are driven by the needs, demands, of their ratepayers, not the other way ’round!
While it might be tempting for some to operate in idealistic superior bubble, demanding – like it or not – that residents ride bikes, I’m pretty sure that bubble will reach a pretty severe end at the first available election!
Like it or not, car parking is a commercial necessity for any CBD and it is up to council to forward a plan for its provision.
I hope it won’t be too much longer and some of these concepts for the town centre and its car parking can be put out for public comment.
The concept I have seen is about opening up the area around the Flynn Church through to Hartley Street creating a fantastic new community space around the Cchurch and the Old Hartley Street School which will cater for gatherings of several thousand – hence the name “The Meeting Place”. It’s a fantastic concept and I wholeheartedly endorse it as it will enhance our CBD and the amenity of our town greatly.
So yeh, great concept Ed … let’s do them both!


Recent Comments by Steve Brown

Scott McConnell now to vote as an Independent
I very much share Scott’s concerns re the Fifth Floor erosion of basic democracy!
Oversight and control of the bureaucratic machines of government is the sole responsibility of elected community representatives.
Department heads and political advisers roles are just that, to advise and to say “yes, Sir” upon a decision of the elected body.
Unfortunately the lines have become blurred.
Many who have no place actively involve themselves in the political foray, crossing the supposed divide between elected government and administration.
I believe this has come about because the government has become so incestuous, we are electing public servants and political advisers far to often!
Pre-selection committees should keep in mind that the whole concept of democracy and elected government is that the community has control over the government it is subjected to!
I agree totally with Scott on this issue: Time to reinstate democracy!


House break-ins more than double
Labor Government withdrew the police from the bottle shops presentations at the hospital blew out! Crimes against the person blew out! Domestic violence blew out!
Police were reinstated to bottle shops and these things returned to their previous levels.
Now we are expected to give some credit for the subsequent reduction in the associated crime figures!
Meanwhile break-ins are up because the numbers of kids on the streets are up and nothing’s been done!
A little birdie indicated just prior to Christmas that the Alice would be getting a 24/7 Youth Centre by boosting Tangentyere Councils Drop in Centre, however since that time … silence!
Apparently the idea has succumbed to budgetary restraint since the announcement that we are broke.
I bet the $200m for the Children and Families Computer system is still going ahead though!
While considering budgetary constraints it would create a better all round result if the Minister was cutting that item rather than the actual on-ground services that have a real chance of making a huge difference to our costs for policing, courts and corrections, while building community confidence and harmony.
Budget constraints, sure, we’ve got to have them, but let’s just think through our priorities before acting: Less bureaucracy, more coal face service!


West Macs fire mitigation critically inadequate: Scientist
@ Alex Hope: So Alex do you think Parks is achieving its purpose now! Is the buffel eradicated? Is the flora and fauna in a better state than when it was a pastoral lease?
Is the park in a condition that we can show it to the world in order to attract the tourists who fund our economy? Have we protected near extinct species?
To just what level of destruction to you propose we go in chasing what some see as a weed and what others know is actually a highly beneficial grass?
At what stage do you stop this battle against grass and look behind you to see the horrific damage that has been done?
By the time the mentality which you espouse is through, if left to run unchecked, there will only be vast fields of buffel grass left all our native animals, trees, shrubs and grasses will be gone, driven into the ground through the actions of irresponsible idiots.
Sensible licensed grazing by shepherded animals is a practical tool that will not only protect the park to a much greater degree from fire but can also add to the park’s attractiveness for visitors, locals running mobile Dude ranch activities and the like.
Parks are for people Alex, not for the sole use of left wing ideologues hell bent on proving some political point at any expense!
As for Illparpa Rd … you are kidding aren’t you? To keep buffel out of that tiny area quite literally thousands of litres of highly toxic now thought to be carcinogenic sprays has and is being used on a continual basis!
So just how much chemical and how much man power would we need for the park, do you think?


Park fire protection: new management plan doesn’t spell it out
The worst thing about these kinds of documents and plans is that in a world of cut and paste they go on and on often returning to the original. No learning. No advancement.
At least one and probably both of the major fire instances to which the document refers were started by prescribed burning!.
I suspect this latest fire or at least its continuation is also very much down to prescribed burning practices! The Lesson: Prescribed burning puts our parks at much greater risk of wildfire”! And if those traditional owners could only see what their words have led to in practice, they would be utterly horrified!
Time for an inquiry and a whole new plan, along with an extinction event for the original.


West MacDonnells blaze: sorrow and questions
Yes, well its clearly evident the fire management strategies as set out have been thrown all to hell and completely ignored for a considerable period of time.
As a result the damage done to the Western Macs, particularly the eastern end, is immeasurable, horrific, particularly when you take into account present weather outlook.
Whatever wildlife is left will probably starve. This may well be an extinction event for some species, as the ranges are very much the last refuge for some.
Just a few short years of park mismanagement have done more damage than 200 years of heavy stocking even overstocking could.
It’s time for an open public inquiry into the land use and management of this area, which is of strategic importance to the future of our environment, our tourism sector and our pastoralists on the extremities.
Tourism in the Centralian region was founded not on Ayers Rock as many might imagine, but on the Western Macs! They are of the utmost importance to our future!
We cannot let this moment pass without questioning all that has taken place.
I like others share a deep sense of sadness and loss at this devastation, trees and habitat that were literally hundreds of years old in the most precious of places have gone!
It will take centuries without devastating fire in these places to replace them! That is how immense the loss is!
So let’s not waste our time on apologies and excuses, let’s get to the bottom of this thing, let’s have a long hard look at the value of advice and management practices that led us to this place, then figure out a better way of doing things from this time on.


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