Bob Beadmen, I think the answer for these unique issues …

Comment on Most comprehensive overhaul of youth justice system: Gunner by Ray.

Bob Beadmen, I think the answer for these unique issues does indeed lie with these “hoary old lore men”. Unfortunately the legal system have fallen over themselves chasing any underage child who feels wrongly done by.
If they win, they win, if they lose, they lose nothing. If the hoary old men grab a kid for their own good or the good of others, they are dragged before the courts to defend themselves.
Danielle Loy was a lawyer who was pushing for traditional law, and was on the right track, but was unable to implement her ideas.
More and more do you hear elders calling for the right to take these kids out bush, and teach them respect, away from the temptation from the bright lights, but the CEOs of the agencies would not have a job for long if that happened.
The ones with the answers are discredited and dragged down by the very people they need to partner with.
The abhorrence of the whole filthy industry is the real tragedy here. As Erwin heard in a previous story, where he heard the excuse about a duty of care, there is hardly a duty of care offered to the kids, it is more the duty of care towards their managers, and their managers’ managers. Do that right, and there is a promotion on the way.

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Masked cops with assault rifles, but where are the parents?
There is no way a charge like that would ever have a chance of succeeding. This has been discussed many times ad nauseum, and the same old answer comes up.
The necessities of life, food and shelter, are provided. If the kid chooses to not take advantage of that, that’s their choice. That charge is usually reserved for the worst cases of kids locked in cupboards, covered in cockroaches and faeces, emancipated and malnourished.
So you are right, there will probably never be a prosecution on that charge ever, as it is for specific, serious cases of child neglect, not letting little Johnny run amok on the streets at night.
Is this a news report or an editorial / opinion piece? As far as tactical weapons, bear cats and masked operators go? Ha ha, what is the go with the sensationalism of late? Aircraft dumping fuel all over us, gunned up SWAT teams?
Why not use the TRG, they are specifically trained for covert surveillance and they have the specialized tools. A bit like the reports of the intervention when some media made it sound like the army was rolling in with tanks and machine guns, where it was more like skilled defence force personnel in land cruisers assisting with infrastructure.
I appreciate the in depth reporting of issues around town, you really don’t need to follow the other trashy tabloids we get here.
[Hi Ray, The piece is clearly labelled as Comment. I also draw your attention to my response here to “Ged”. Erwin Chlanda, Editor.]


Public money flowing into facility about to be closed
Can’t see it being closed any time soon. The $100m facility in Darwin will only have 12 beds, there needs to be somewhere to put the rest. I reckon at least two years until we see a new one here.


Leaders want town council help to fight youth crime
An intelligence approach would be good. Particularly with the advance of social media and the availability of apps.
Many people could not be bothered calling the 131444 number, hoping it gets answered and then explaining exactly where in Alice Spings the problem is.
Intelligence based policing would involve an app that local coppers on the beat could have that shows situations trending based on how many people report the problem.
Naturally the faster the particular report trends the faster the police could respond.
How many times do you see on Facebook sites like ASCOF multiple people commenting on the same anti social behaviours, and how many of those people have bothered to report it?
A more interactive role using the latest technology would make responses more fluid and possibly more effective.
Mind you, since the Royal Commission came out, I could see the police turning a blind eye to youths on the street, whereas a few years ago they might have called them over for a chat, engaging with them.
Now the amount of red tape involved in any youth interaction will simply too much to bear, so drive on by and pretend you saw nothing. Besides, even if it necessitates an arrest, even less will happen than it did before.


Guilty: unanimous jury verdict for Peace Pilgrim
@ Fred the Philistine: Do you mean neutral like Norway, Belgium and Denmark in 1940?


Call for public to monitor police at bottle shops
I did not really support it, but it has been the only thing that worked. Licencing inspectors will not have the knowlege of the perpetrators to be as effective as the police unfortunately.
As far as out there catching real criminals? Talking to the cops that do it, it seems they are having success in preventing the crimes occurring in the first place.
Getting pissed and belting a woman or child until they require hospitalisation, I believe, is a real crime.
Summer is comming. Take the coppers off the bottle shops, prepare for absolute hell. Thanks to the local coppers for doing this boring, thankless job. You are making a difference.


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