Bob Beadmen, I think the answer for these unique issues …

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Bob Beadmen, I think the answer for these unique issues does indeed lie with these “hoary old lore men”. Unfortunately the legal system have fallen over themselves chasing any underage child who feels wrongly done by.
If they win, they win, if they lose, they lose nothing. If the hoary old men grab a kid for their own good or the good of others, they are dragged before the courts to defend themselves.
Danielle Loy was a lawyer who was pushing for traditional law, and was on the right track, but was unable to implement her ideas.
More and more do you hear elders calling for the right to take these kids out bush, and teach them respect, away from the temptation from the bright lights, but the CEOs of the agencies would not have a job for long if that happened.
The ones with the answers are discredited and dragged down by the very people they need to partner with.
The abhorrence of the whole filthy industry is the real tragedy here. As Erwin heard in a previous story, where he heard the excuse about a duty of care, there is hardly a duty of care offered to the kids, it is more the duty of care towards their managers, and their managers’ managers. Do that right, and there is a promotion on the way.

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Pack of girls attacked me, says Chinese on working holiday
Would be interesting to see the outcome if Worksafe was contacted about this.
Absolutely the company has a duty to their employees, there should certainly be a policy dealing with the safety of employees departing late at night, especially where the hazards of this town are so well known.
Regardless, the employer has a duty to identify the risk and put controls in place, this would include making the staff finishing their shift aware of the risk to their health and safety by not having suitable transport home, and alternatives if transport was not available.
It could be a journey claim if the worker was traveling directly home at the completion of a shift.
A case in point is the woman attacked by the magpie, losing her eye on her way to work.
A joint responsibility between the employer and the shopping center, especially as the hazard had previously been identified.
There are additional duties imposed if it involves young or inexperienced workers.

Pack of girls attacked me, says Chinese on working holiday
@ Evelyne: I, like Laurence, write under a pseudonym due to where we work.
Erwin knows me, and he certainly understands the implications if I used my real name.
I do however enjoy the opportunity to contribute to community discussion without the fear of disciplinary action taken against me/us, and in the past, I have both agreed with you and shared arguments as well
I do agree that it takes a village to raise a child, as long as we live in a village, where a small number of people all must contribute to ensuring the survival of all.
Many villages in the traditional sense would be no more than 100 people. We are not a village, we are a large town with many different groups, cultures, beliefs, and expectations, and that expression is not relevant to our contemporary way of life.
The problem people like me have with this “throw away” expression is that it deflects responsibility, where people can say: “It’s not my fault, it takes a village to raise a child, so its the fault of the villagers, not me.”
Wrong, you gave the example of how you raised your children, I am raising mine and Dr Who raised his.
The people who helped were not villagers, they were paid professionals offering a service.
The concept of a village implies aunties, uncles, and close-knit members of a small group.
In those days if the kids mucked up, they would be given a clip under the ear by another villager who you knew.
Would you be happy with somebody smacking your child for running amok in Woolies?
Those days of a village are long gone, and the people who have the primary responsibility for raising the child are the parents, nobody else.
Yes, we may use doctors or teachers or police to augment our responsibilities, but the buck stops with the family.
The problem is many of the youths running wild today are from parents who probably were raised in that village environment, out bush on traditional lands, where the kids could run wild.
Unfortunately, the concept of urban drift has occurred, yet the additional responsibility that goes with living in an urban environment is not understood by these parents.
The grandparents probably say: “That’s alright, you used to run around when you were kids” without the understanding that the dangers of today were not there in those days, let alone the propensity to use violence to survive and then thrive on the streets.
My problem is that the euphemism of taking a village to raise a child ignores that fact that village life is far different to life in modern society, and is used as an excuse to abdicate responsibility.

National Indigenous Gallery advisors: ‘Release full report’
Regardless, as I have maintained, it needs to be far more than another art gallery, it must be a cultural centre. What a shame the collections of Mr Guth were lost in a fire.

Aboriginal Men’s Shed: ‘We’ll build it ourselves from scratch’
Sounds like what is needed, well done Ken.
It seems when an Aboriginal person stands up and shines a light, they are torn down by another group who are quick to say “you don’t represent me”.
Hopefully this won’t happen here. Many of these concepts are what are needed, provided the target audience want to accept it.
It seems like the normal way to live life for a man who lives in town, has a well paid job and lives in a house. But can this be ingrained in those who live dysfunctional lives, to be encouraged to live as many of them see it as white man ways? Let’s hope so.

Selfie at the top of the world
Well done boss. A very determined and capable man at the top of his game.

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