I agree Ted and if the designer comes from interstate …

Comment on Indigenous art gallery centrepiece of Gunner’s plans for Alice by Evelyne Roullet.

I agree Ted and if the designer comes from interstate or overseas, he/she should demonstrate his/her knowledge of Aboriginal culture and the design should be based on the songlines which underpin the whole Aboriginal culture and tie all Aboriginal Australia together.

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Indigenous art gallery centrepiece of Gunner’s plans for Alice
@ Ray: “Saying it is a national Aboriginal centre demonstrates we still don’t get it.”
I put myself in the shoes of an oversea tourist, who wishing to learn, to understand this country. Australia is vaste and demands time and money if you want to visit all the “many countries” you speak off. Alice Springs could be the perfect centre for a unique experience.
Your statement:”The entrance to this centre should be the first point to explain to visitors that although Aboriginal people inhabit the entire continent, it is made up of hundreds of ‘countries’ and this particular centre celebrates and explains to visitors the uniqueness of the TOs, their descendants and visitors that make up this region.” This describes exactly my thoughts on the subject.
@ Steve: I do not speak like an academic, but as a longtime resident with many Aborigine friends sharing their feelings and knowledge. As a politician Steve, may be you should learn to refrain to debase people who have different point of view that yours, this is the first advice that an academic give to students learning how to debate.
I can debate with Ray, but not with you if you insult.


Indigenous art gallery centrepiece of Gunner’s plans for Alice
We cannot compare Indigenous of Australia with the inhabitants of Europe.
Songlines trace the journeys of ancestral spirits as they created the land, animals and lore.
Integral to Aboriginal spirituality, songlines are deeply tied to the Australian landscape and provide important knowledge, cultural values and wisdom to Indigenous people.
“They can be about creation stories, and they can be contemporary stories as well.
“It’s quite complex, but those land markers are very, very important, hence the importance of land claims and acknowledgement of traditional owners.”
Using songlines, Indigenous Australians have acquired an encyclopedic memory of the thousands of species of plants and animals across Australia.
“They wouldn’t have survived if they didn’t have all this practical knowledge and handed down generation after generation,” says Monash University researcher Lynne Kelly.
Europe has no songlines.
Songlines criss-cross not only the remotest parts of the continent as well as our seas, but also the cities and suburbs.


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Judge Borchers’ position should be assessed: CAALAS
@ My view 100% with you:
Parents and educators know that love mixed with firm discipline is what produces functional happy children.
When we discipline children we show them that we care.
To discipline is not to punish, is not to command obedience, it is to teach and a disciple is a student.
The word “discipline” is from the Latin word disciplina meaning “instruction and training”. It’s derived from the root word discere – “to learn.”
Discipline is to study, learn, train, and apply a system of standards.


Judge Borchers’ position should be assessed: CAALAS
Careful with that Jibe, Eugene: A jibe can also be an insulting remark as another way to spell gibe (to make taunting, heckling, or jeering remarks).
No one is called Eugene in this discussion, and if for some valid reason you cannot use your name, do not use a pseudo who can be humiliating and antagonising.
Now could you tell what was done, and by which services, between March and May to help this troubled, traumatised lad?


Judge Borchers’ position should be assessed: CAALAS
Sarah, you said: “It is more cost effective (and humane) to help a young person realise the impact of their offending on their community and the victims, and judges (with all the respect that they command) have a hugely important role in this.”
Yes, but I believe the offender had this explained to him on the first appearance in court, and he agreed by signing an agreement, and by his following action demonstrated that he did not give tutt about the consequences / impact of his behaviour.
Quote: “This does not mean that judges need to wrap their words in cotton wool, in fact frank language can be used to explain the impact of their behaviour, but it should not be humiliating, nor should be antagonising.”
Please show me and explain to me in which way the language of the Judge was humiliating and antagonising.
Can you take the role of the judge in the full script of the court case and tell me what you would have done / said.
I raise for decent adults in Alice Springs; they were sometime really misbehaved.
The police will collect them, the Sargent on duty will give them the boot at the backside, take them back home where I will give them another one. They were not the only ones and I never heard a single parent complained about this treatment.


Judge Borchers’ position should be assessed: CAALAS
Yes Ralph, of course the community must look after this troubled young man.
But which community? And how? Send him back on the street with no support? Or put him in a rehabilitation centre / or a good boarding house where he will be disciplined and loved?
For the ones who despair let me tell you that our dilemma with trouble youth is not new:
“The world is passing through troublous times. The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress.”
(From a sermon preached by Peter the Hermit in A.D. 1274)
“I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words … When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise [disrespectful] and impatient of restraint”.
(Hesiod, 8th century BC)
“The children now love luxury; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are tyrants, not servants of the households. They no longer rise when their elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize over their teachers.”
Commonly attributed to Socrates by Plato.
Of course it does not mean that we must do nothing.
It comes to my mind that we are asked on TV or the internet to sponsor children overseas: Why not sponsor a child in our own community?


Judge Borchers’ position should be assessed: CAALAS
Surprised: I am in total agreement with the judge.
The offender is not a child he knew what he was doing: HIS HONOUR: “You’re deliberately moving the CCTV camera so that you won’t get caught. Which is clear evidence that you knew what you were doing was wrong”.
He had made a contract and broke it:
HIS HONOUR: “What does my order say in March, that he signed and he said he’d agreed to? What did it say? He would go to school every day.”
The offender had a chance and he discarded it.
HIS HONOUR: “You’re not going back into the community. The community can’t afford you. It’s quite clear that you and your family are not going to pick up the damages for what you’ve caused. And, presumably, and I infer this, you’ve got no understanding of that. You don’t know what a first world economy is. You don’t know the difference between – you don’t know where money comes from other than the government gives it out.”
Correct. The community cannot afford to pay non-stop for the damages causes by delinquents.
The system of working for your pocket money disappeared and it is a pity because a child has to learn the value of things.


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