Just Sayin’, I had to read your comment “and after …

Comment on Old tree danger: council was told two years ago by Ray.

Just Sayin’, I had to read your comment “and after 150 years of racism and disrespect for the people and the country” twice. What a sad attitude you have. 30000 people have done this eh? You are doing well in your efforts to divide and cause hatred, congratulations.
You do realize that the Alice in 10 project that was done in 2000 was done and coordinated by black and white together and included aerial mapping of all sacred trees in the Todd river to identify and protect them. Many of the ones that have been destroyed over the years were destroyed by people from other regions camping in the river and setting fire to them, not some of the 30000 that you are alluding to.
Do some research about the cooperation and partnerships between white and black that are well documented in this town’s history. Of course there are fences, because we understand these sites need protection. We clear the weeds and buffel because we “care for country” too. There is good and bad done on both sides, but I have lived here for almost 20 years, and doubt I will find another “town like Alice” where despite the problems, there is an amazing acceptance and respect shown towards each other on both sides.
My kids would never get the chance to grow up with traditional black kids in any other town this size. It is rare for me to ever ride my bike past Aboriginal people along the bike path and not get a welcoming “Hello” back when I say “G’day”. There are haters on both sides, but hopefully your venom will not attack those who appreciate the unique cultural melting pot that this town has become. You might claim to only see racism, but you are wrong. You are also wrong if you think that there has been 150 years of racism and disrespect. There has been, and continues to be a real push for acceptance and understanding, despite your hope that we believe the opposite.

Recent Comments by Ray

Anger mounting over closing of Rock climb
Watchin: You are correct, but the pyramids are man made structures, and burial monuments.
They are not a naturally occurring monolith.
The Nepalese hold Everest in sacred regard, people climb that, more people die there than Ayers Rock.

Anger mounting over closing of Rock climb
Interesting there was a death at King’s Canyon recently, but no call to close that.
Marc has some very interesting info on his blog spot, including some dubious figures from deaths at the resort, wished to make it seem they were actually climbing the rock at the time.
Interesting that the truly sacred areas are actuall visible from the base walk.
The climb itself is of no real cultural interest to the Anangu, until the renters told them it was disrespectful.

Aboriginal gallery: rushed business case yet immediate start?
Why do we even need this gallery, that will not even sell Aboriginal art?
Surely money would be better spent as an Aboriginal art destination, promoting the seven or eight galleries already operating in the Mall.
Their knowledgeable staff can explain all that any tourist would want to know.
It would just take clever marketing and promotion, without a need for this proposed massive cost.
The government, with the new juvenile centres in the Alice and Darwin, simply cannot afford it.

Black money
Well said, Evelyne.
The business of grovelling apologies, welcome to country and acknowledgement of country have slowly indoctrinated us to accept this level of racism.
We go on about paying respects to people of the past present, and somehow the future for doing something (not sure what exactly) called nurturing the land.
Yet we totally ignore the explorers, adventurers and pioneers who opened up the country and make us the envy of many countries around the world.
The modern brainwashing we are subject to makes us and everybody believe that all of these people killed Aboriginal people whenever they saw them and stole all their children.
Every time you hear one of these silly speeches, which do nothing to advance rectifying the plight of Aboriginal people, you encourage this sort of racist policy.
It does nothing other than promote white guilt, when in fact we have so much to be proud of.
If it’s good enough to acknowlege the custodians of the land (a people who did not much more than just survive) then it should also include an acknowlegement and thanks to who made this country what it is today.
There is much money to be gained by weaving lies about the nasty white man, and having books published which bend the facts at best, and just make them up at worst.
It is going to get worse, there was never any cultural taboo or lack of respect for climbing the rock, until the white rangers told the Anangu that there was, because rescues are expensive, and the profit margins can be increased by getting rid of those pesky rescues.
My kids were not permitted to attend a comedy workshop a while ago simply because they are white.
Heaven forbid Aboriginal children learn they can have fun and get along with white kids, that would weaken the victim brigade in the years to come.
Next time you are subject to a welcome to country, something that was only invented in ’86 by Ernie Dingo, [remember it is] just as much my country and my children’s.
Or next time you hear an acknowlegement of country, without acknowledging our culture or the contributions of our forebears, turn your back or walk away, and treat these divisive apologist charades with the contempt they deserve.
As far as the scholarships go, give them out based on need, not greed. A simple test would be consider if it is fair if the background of the recipients were reversed.

Proposal to end the code of conduct charade
If Jimmy makes comments as Jimmy, within reason, he is entitled to participate in robust debate.
If he makes comments as Councillor Cocking, then the code could apply.
If not, a large part of the community will be prevented from participating in public discussions. Making a complaint that is found to be frivolous and vexatious, should be an offence in its own right.

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