Thanks Erwin, interesting stuff. Now that this debate has pretty clear …

Comment on Milk and honey or fracking battle field? by Edan Baxter.

Thanks Erwin, interesting stuff.
Now that this debate has pretty clear lines of perspective, winners and losers etc, will the Alice Springs News Online be taking an editorial position on shale gas fracking?

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Milk and honey or fracking battle field?
@ Patrick: Myself personally, I barely know a single person who is skeptical, wary or indeed anti-fracking – and who doesn’t appreciate modern technologies at the same time.
Feel free to call people names and to suggest those who don’t get behind fracking are hypocrites – but actually it says more about you than anyone else.
The sensible centre are able to look past the simplistic name-calling and rhetoric you spout – and know that the world is transitioning away from gas and oil as energy sources. The sensible centre is rightly questioning whose interests are being served by this amazing “milk and honey” industry.
Sure, oil and gas has dominated world affairs for centuries, and yes, these resources are going to be important for a while yet – but does that mean the NT should drop its pants and become a client-state for petroleum / gas industry?
Why should we rush to tie our economic and cultural future with this risk-ridden industry at this critical juncture in our history?
This idea that gas is going to solve all our budget woes is simplistic, mostly manufactured and mostly wrong. Why should we Territorians believe, now that we’ve witnessed the winners / losers of other major gas projects across Australia that we can expect better outcomes for the NT?
Let’s be honest; opening up the NT to open-slather fracking is NOT going to fix the Territory’s real issues! It will probably only make facing up to our REAL problems harder!
The big challenge for the NT right now is how to navigate a hostile Federal government and to emerge with some sense of sovereignty.
Does anybody really believe it is appropriate / accurate to tie “good schools, health, hospitals and affordable places to live” to fracking!? Is this truly the state of Territory political discourse in 2017?
As I stated on an alternative thread, enough of the going around in circles rubbish debate, time for us to develop a clear picture of the choices we DO have.
Signed 6th Generation Australian bushie. (@ Patrick: Sorry mate, perhaps you didn’t spend enough nights out under the stars of this great southern land to get it?)


Milk and honey or fracking battle field?
@ Harold. What a lacklustre comment.
I have asked our esteemed editor an open question about whether the Alice Springs News Online (ASNO) will be taking an editorial stance at some point or letting this debate run.
Erwin has chosen the latter (for now?). That’s his prerogative. All good. The body of knowledge on ASNO will continue to grow.
For your information, I am thoroughly interested in the many levels of the so-called NT fracking debate and contrary to your comment, I have no interest in shouting anyone down.
We could look at fracking at many levels: e.g. Science / environment, research (what constititutes objectively sourced?), economic, media or geo-political perspectives, but what is the point when commenters like yourself are so quick to troll any attempt at intelligent dialogue?
Your comment demonstrates that you:
• are a hypocrite.
• are too gutless to use your full name.
• obviously you don’t get the fundamental principles of good debate (treat others how you would seek to be treated yourself).
• prefer to sling aspersions without even engaging in a discussion first.
So I will reserve my right to not waste my time engaging with you.
However in the interests of ASNO reader entertainment, I offer you a chance to show everyone you are not just another full-of-cheap-gas-keyboard-nobody.
Exactly how much community opposition will be required to determine that the development of a shale gas industry has insufficient social license to operate in the NT?
I look forward to your answer.


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Today was a small preview of how this project might be presented on the larger Australian stage or indeed to potential international visitors.
I got there a bit late, but as far as I can tell, Benedict Stevens is to be commended for getting the conversation underway proper.
So, NT Government, can we please now turn-down-the-tap of glossy leaflets, media releases and $ PR strategies? (Let’s save the money. Instead let’s maybe stay focused on getting that business case completed?)
And in the meantime, let’s listen up for the other voices (Arrernte and other). Let’s ensure that they are accorded due respect.
It is still possible to harness the boundless possible provenance of this project.


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Dr Ongo. Definitely a story! Time will tell if it makes news.
Hal, hope can take many forms, but it’s probably best that Alice keep eyes focused on the Berrimah line.


Aboriginal gallery: rushed business case yet immediate start?
Today I heard a story that should give hope to those who are feeling dispirited about this matter.
I would urge everyone to hold the line a little longer. Let us stay focused on the principles at stake here. There can be a way forward on this this amazing project without dividing the town.


1 Territory too fixed on opposition to fracking: Lambley
@ Alex: Got your point.


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