Yes Ralph, of course the community must look after this …

Comment on Judge Borchers’ position should be assessed: CAALAS by Evelyne Roullet.

Yes Ralph, of course the community must look after this troubled young man.
But which community? And how? Send him back on the street with no support? Or put him in a rehabilitation centre / or a good boarding house where he will be disciplined and loved?
For the ones who despair let me tell you that our dilemma with trouble youth is not new:
“The world is passing through troublous times. The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress.”
(From a sermon preached by Peter the Hermit in A.D. 1274)
“I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words … When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise [disrespectful] and impatient of restraint”.
(Hesiod, 8th century BC)
“The children now love luxury; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are tyrants, not servants of the households. They no longer rise when their elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize over their teachers.”
Commonly attributed to Socrates by Plato.
Of course it does not mean that we must do nothing.
It comes to my mind that we are asked on TV or the internet to sponsor children overseas: Why not sponsor a child in our own community?

Evelyne Roullet Also Commented

Judge Borchers’ position should be assessed: CAALAS
I agree with you Alex: One part-time worker with CAALAS is not able to “work closely with EVERY SINGLE young person going through Central Australian court system, their family, community, lawyer, school and other service-providers to provide the young person with the support they need to get back on track and stay out of trouble”. But has CAALAS asked for more help?

Judge Borchers’ position should be assessed: CAALAS
Peter, it is obvious that we do not see or understand the same from the court transcript.
I see the judge interrupting the lawyer when the lawyer does not answer the question or has no clue.
The lawyer was not prepared and I feel this lad was misrepresented.
A judge makes judgement with the facts presented to him in a clear fashion not with “if’ and “may be”.
In a government of laws, the responsibility of the courts is to interpret and apply the law.
Each case before a court of law involves a controversy that the court must resolve as the institution in which every member of the community must have confidence. Each case presents its own unique set of facts and issues. The role of the judicial branch is to do justice according to law in each case.
As Chief Justice James Spigelman AC (Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of New South Wales 19 May, 1998,until 31 May 2011) has explained: “The desire of bureaucrats and others to measure performance risks the wood being missed for the trees.”
I feel it is the case here.

Judge Borchers’ position should be assessed: CAALAS
@ My view 100% with you:
Parents and educators know that love mixed with firm discipline is what produces functional happy children.
When we discipline children we show them that we care.
To discipline is not to punish, is not to command obedience, it is to teach and a disciple is a student.
The word “discipline” is from the Latin word disciplina meaning “instruction and training”. It’s derived from the root word discere – “to learn.”
Discipline is to study, learn, train, and apply a system of standards.

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I have questions for Maccas supervisor and staff:
• She started at 10pm and the shift ended at 2am on Sunday. She must be tired.
• When she left she discovered her bike had been stolen. Does Maccas have no secure parking for staff?
• So she set out on foot to the home of a friend in the Old Eastside, where she is staying. Could anyone, as she was not alone, have given her a lift? Or called a taxi? I was under impression that it was the employer’s responsibility to insure the safety of their employees.

Pack of girls attacked me, says Chinese on working holiday
@ Karen. Hillary Clinton:”Twenty years ago, I wrote a book called ‘It Takes a Village.’ And a lot of people looked at the title and asked, ‘What the heck do you mean by that?’ This is what I mean. None of us can raise a family, build a business, heal a community or lift a country totally alone.”

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@Thea “In any other country, you just can’t imagine how a group of kids can be so evil”? In all countries included Australia.“Youth violence is a global public health problem. It includes a range of acts from bullying and physical fighting, to more severe sexual and physical assault to homicide.” WHO (World Health Organisation)
I have been attacked in Sydney by a gang of white girls and in full day light; attacked on the platform of a Brisbane train station by a gang of young boys, once again white and full day light. Evil is everywhere;but it does not mean we cannot do something about it. I believe a curfew should at least be tried.

@Dr Who I agree :”It is hard by yourself sometimes, but not impossible”. I myself single handed raised 4 kids in this town, all in their 50s now, but what a call. The village was with me like it was with you even if you did not realise it because if your boys were so young you must have had help when you were working: neighbours, teachers, police officers etc all those people who make a “village”.

“Although there are no national data on youth gangs in Australia there is a perception that youth gangs are an emerging problem. This paper draws largely on overseas attempts to deal with gang related activity and the extent to which they have been successful. The most successful interventions have some combination of coercive and developmental measures. A key issue for both policy makers and practitioners is the weight given to particular measures within the context of an overall strategy”. From Australian Institute of Criminology: Trends & Issues in Crime and Criminal Justice No. 274.

Pack of girls attacked me, says Chinese on working holiday
Laurence: I am one of those useful idiots chanting that it takes the whole of a village to raise a child.
But, Laurence, this idiot has the guts to put her name to her posts. How can we take advice from an anonymous source? And who knows, the village could be healthier with people proud of their ideas and opinions?
You cannot publish your name? Because of your job? Your family? Get rid of them if this stops you to be true to yourself.
It takes the whole of a village to raise a child does not mean that the village has no rules. To the contrary. A village has expectations, behaviours, boundaries.
Breach of rules and crimes must be punished.

‘Bring back school based constables’
One tick for you Alex, from one ratbag to another.

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