Re Tony @Posted November 29, 2011 at 9:52 am: You’re right, …

Comment on NT Government action on grog clearly not enough for Macklin by Bob Durnan.

Re Tony @Posted November 29, 2011 at 9:52 am:
You’re right, it is a bit like living in kindergarten land: if you paid any attention to the details that have emerged in this important ongoing debate, you would be well aware that your statement claiming the “banning of 4 litre casks has done nothing except inconvenience the wider population” is absolutely incorrect.
The banning of the 4 litre casks has seen a sustained drop in overall sales of alcohol (close to a 20% drop since 2006), and this has massively improved things for the general public, because it has caused a drop in the average number of homicides, and a reduction in serious alcohol-related harms, emergency department attendances, expensive hospital procedures, and serious inter-personal violence and self-harms. Consequently the police and hospital are freed to take more care of the general public, as they have to spend less time clearing up the results of murders and serious assaults. Continued litter and public drinking problems are relatively small prices to pay compared to these public benefits.

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NT Government action on grog clearly not enough for Macklin
Good to see these Commonwealth politicians having the guts to show some serious, thoughtful leadership on this issue. If these steps are allowed to proceed to fruition, then at last we might get a better balance between the individual’s freedom to drink alcohol in the NT, and the rights of us all to be reasonably safe from the harms caused by many consumers of alcohol. In particular, we could even see adequate respect for the rights of all children to receive proper care from sober parents and carers, not disrupted by alcohol-related harms, and a healthy start to their lives during their pre-birth, pre-school and school years.

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