Racist diatribe Ian? Oh well we are all entitled to …

Comment on Greatorex forum: where was the fourth candidate? And where were the voters? by Ray.

Racist diatribe Ian? Oh well we are all entitled to our opinion, in mine it was not a racist diatribe, nor have I found him racist. Many of the issues discussed then and now are controversial, and passions run high on both sides. My opinion was simply that I have followed Matt’s career closely, as I have an interest in reading Hansard to get all the info, and have seen how hard many of our pollies work. Their decisions may not always be popular, but they have the interest of the Territory at heart. What is best, however, is the bone of contention.
Ian, I choose to post under my first name as is my right. It is not hiding, or cowardice, but due to where I work, and its relationship to many of the articles I share my opinion on, I do not wish to formally identify myself. I believe there could be a perceived conflict of interest and I do not wish to cross that line.
Either way Ian, please don’t try and impose what you believe I should do, against what I am entitled to do. But thanks for your opinion.
[ED – Hi Ray, if there is a conflict of interest then I want to know, and the readers have right to know. I look forward to your explanation. Kind regards, Erwin.]

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Greatorex forum: where was the fourth candidate? And where were the voters?
Jane@5. I have been a good mate of Matt Conlan since he arrived in Alice Springs, and I worked closely with him at 8HA / Sun FM. I remember him creating Territory Today. This radio show gave local people a chance to discuss the issues of this town. There are very few regional centres anywhere in Australia, the size of Alice Springs, that have access to a forum such as Territory Today. While it continues today in the very capable hands of Adrian Renzi, it was Matt’s brainchild.
It was through hosting this program that Matt got to appreciate the issues that mattered to this town, and he got to hear the concerns of the residents on the many and varied issues that mattered to this town. Matt was passionate about the issues, so much so that when an opportunity came up to step into the political arena and fight for the issues he was hearing about every day, he took it.
Jane, and others who accuse Matt of just cruising, enlighten yourself of the man’s achievements before you post public comment, this may save you embarrassing yourself. Look up the daily Hansard of the NT Legislative Assembly, and do a search by “member”. You can then read everything Matt (or any other MLA) has said in Parliament. So please consider the many different issues that MLA’s have to have knowledge of, and gain an understanding of how Matt is able to stand up and present a logical argument to some of the topics discussed in parliament. He is a local bloke, having a go. Jane, it is very easy to stand back and throw mud at somebody, and generalisations such as lazy and cruising are easy to say. Researching this will also answer your question regarding the vision he has put forward for Greatorex.
As for not attending Mr Walcott’s meeting, he stated in print and on radio from the beginning that he would not be attending, so don’t ask where was he? when you really know the answer.
I am not in Matt’s electorate, but I think it only fair to stick up for him when I see cheap shots being taken, as I have been friends with Matt since the first day he arrived in town.
Good luck to all contenders, and there will be plenty of chances to sling mud if you get in, but why not keep the shots above the waistline, at least until you are elected.


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Rules for outback work travel may catch some out
This is a great result to see the regulator stepping up and putting businesses on notice that they cannot send workers out bush without taking all reasonable steps to ensure the safety of their workers.
One would hope they change their mind about letting Fair Work deal with the worker’s dismissal as there are certainly laws under the OH and S legislation that can punish firms that sack a worker for raising a safety concern. The NT has an atrocious record and it’s about time that a proactive approach was done.


Gallery business case slap in the face of custodians
1000 EXTRA visitors week? Really?
And the government leaders do not take a second and say exactly the same thing? Or do they push ahead and shift the blame to Ernst and Young?
I might believe maybe 100 visitors per week, ergo an adjusted economic input of $4.2 Million. Taking a more realistic figure, it will take a hell of a long tome to ever pay that back, especially adding in the relocation of the council or the building of the football fields whenever and where ever it is built.
I still don’t understand why the site at the Desert knowledge Precinct in not considered, with Yirara students just across the road for transition to employment training.
Even the Melanka site at the retail price and creative architecture or the disused fuel depot near Hungry Jack’s, once again creative architecture to meld with the landscape.
Even with the rehabilitation of the land prior to building it, it would probably make more economic, geographical and cultural sense.
Sorry, hard to type while I am laughing at these figures. Please ensure you archive these predictions Erwin.
I would love to be proven wrong five years after it is built!

[ED – No worries, it will be in our fully searchable archive, now spanning 25 years and containing about seven million words.]


Online hate speech by leading tourism figure
Erwin, thanks for contacting me and explaining the reasons for not publishing my [earlier] comment.
I won’t repeat my words but it is important to maintain my sentiment, and that is I do not condemn the language used by Mr Thompson, apart from LBC (which I could interpret as Lovely Bloody Children (sarcastic), or Loose bloody cannons).
I would use the same other description, but at your request will not repeat it in my comment here.
Your headline uses the term hate speech, however I personally believe that it is a symptom of the frustrations and anger felt by this entire community by these actions.
Even though as you pointed out these actions were probably perpetrated by children, that is no excuse as they are fully aware of their actions.
Would your jaw be any less broken by a rock thrown by a muscular 14yo than a skinny 18yo?
Even today outside Yeperenye a child of no more than 8, ran in front of my car by accident, a result of kids just being kids, in this case by the time her mum realised what was about to happen, it was too late.
After I had braked to avoid it, the kid immediately jumped back, because she knew that running in front of a car could have consequences.
She knew immediately the consequences of being hit by a car hence her instinct of recoiling at the last second (a lack of attentiveness by me would have certainly seen her hit).
They know the consequences of being bitten by a snake, so they give them a wide berth, and they know of the consequences of disrespecting bigger, stronger kids, so I do not believe they are too young to understand the consequences of their actions.
In this case it is reinforced by the TV campaigns.
As mentioned by other commentators here, it is the frustration of more excuses and sympathy for the perpetrator, and only a cursory thought for the victim.
Solutions?
That’s not my job, but of it were it would be as an Aboriginal leader suggested at a recent meeting I attended: 100km out bush on an outstation, on country, run by their kin, and educated on what is expected of them, in the community they live in.
In all societies, black or white, social exclusion is used until the rules are understood and followed to some degree. It worked in the 70s, it could again, and needs to be seriously considered here.


Youth crime: compassion alone is no solution
This lawyer is by the very definition a bleeding heart, concerned only with her client and the publicly funded pay cheque she picks up.
Nothing about the victims of these kids, who would be glad to see them paying the price of their ways. She also fails to mention the multiple chances and warnings these kids get.
They don’t get locked up for a first or fourth or sometimes 10th offence. Would be good to know the number of chances this particular client got.
As far as the grandmothers go, in keeping the kids close: Too late, keep them close when they first get into trouble and they would not, ever, be in this place.
And no the words like tortured that always come into play, even though the kids get meals and safe beds every day, pizza on weekends and visits from footy teams when they are in town.
I think the ones who suffer torture are the staff, who are very dedicated but end up becoming punching bags because the rights of these violent young criminals (that’s what they are) seem to trump the expectations of a safe workplace.


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The latest news is now 365 days including Anzac Day. Hopefully council will erect two extra poles not just 1 so protocol can be followed.
After the Australian National Flag, the order of precedence of flags is: national flag of other nations, state and territory flags, other Australian flags prescribed by the Flags Act 1953, ensigns and pennants.


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