@2 No! None of the projects I mention had anything …

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@2 No! None of the projects I mention had anything to do with getting tourists out bush to ride camels.
They were as you describe, round up the camels using off road motorbikes and herd them into stock yards before trucking them off.
As to what went wrong, there was a culture of “lack of respect” towards vehicles, the bikes were irreparable within three months.
Poor work attendance and continuity of the same workers were major problems, train one person and he’s gone somewhere else – start again.
Animal handling was a major problem – camels were frequently injured. This was despite a high input of training.
Over the last few years an energetic whitefella at Docker River started a small business shooting camels around Docker, butchering them on the spot and taking the meat back to the community.
A number of local men were trained and there were hopes that this would continue after he left, after all no yards were needed, camels everywhere, including on the main road – all you need is a rifle, knives and a ute. Despite the high demand for the cheap or free camel meat the business collapsed the same day the whitefella left.

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Footy glory for Centre’s best lasts just a weekend
Yes, when you think about it, many communities could get their meat for almost nothing from feral pests like camels and rabbits. Imagine the savings. No doubt Ninti One are writing a submission for half a million bucks to get funding for the idea.

Footy glory for Centre’s best lasts just a weekend
What short memories most of us have: Docker River has had two camel enterprises, Kintore has had three etc etc. These were all very well funded in terms of training, building camel yards, buying motorbikes and land cruisers.
What were the outcomes? The new motorbikes were thrashed to death, the Toyotas went missing in action, the stock yards turned to graveyards as trainers walked away and without them the camels were left to slowly starve to death in their stock yards.
A few camels were caught and tethered to trees until they could be collected, their skeletons can still be seen in the same place, the remains of rope visible around their necks.
Please, shoot them from aeoplanes, until there are many other changes, it is by far the cheapest and most humane way to reduce their numbers.

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Little progress with $64m management system for trouble kids
These management systems are outsourced to Indian IT companies.

Little progress with $64m management system for trouble kids
Information management systems with magical capabilities have an unfortunate history in the NT.
The need for them emerges when governments have run out of solutions to major problems.
This one is claimed to “get young people out of the cycle of crime”.
Similarly IMOS was designed to break the cycle of recidivism and reduce the numbers of prisoners in our jails.
IMOS took twice as long to make and cost more than twice its original budget.
It was a near useless system, mismatched to on the ground realities and the needs of Corrections staff.
For political reasons it was never used to research which programs actually worked in reducing recidivism.
This case management system will also blow out in cost and will not break the cycle of crime.
But with no answers it is timely, even if useless and yet more expenditure we can’t afford.

Dujuan’s moving story and its missing pieces
@ Meg: Thanks for your post. The need for Aboriginal children to have their histories, identities, languages and culture taught and valued in our education system inspires In My Blood It Runs. This is a timely message for our local schools.
I was shocked when I worked as a teacher at Yirara College to discover that Aboriginal histories, identity, languages and culture are ignored.
The students knew almost nothing of their own history but were familiar with the white history of Australia. What could be more important to identity than knowing your own history?
It was always my interest at Yirara to address the shortfall of Aboriginal history but it was not encouraged.
It struck me as unbalanced that Anzac Day, commemorating mainly white wars, is so important in the Yirara calendar that staff work on that public holiday in order to accompany students to watch the march.
By contrast there are Aboriginal heroes that could and should be celebrated.
I found the story of Jandamarra inspirational and taught it. Jandamarra was a Bunaba resistance fighter who fought against cattlemen trying to take over his people’s country.
His bravery is celebrated in the film Jandamarra’s War.
This was objected to at Yirara because Jandamarra killed white people and this was considered unacceptable.
Teaching and valuing Aboriginal histories, identities and culture also has the capacity to engage students and stimulate their learning. In place of the boring mainstream curriculum at Yirara that fails to engage students it could be an important breakthrough.

Anger with out-of-control kids: council needs to step up
Financial incentives and disincentives have been tried and both have failed.
All strategies aiming to throw the responsibility back on parents have not worked.
We must move on.
Of course schools can’t teach everything but it is reasonable to expect them to reinforce the values that are under threat, namely respect for western rules and property.
Teaching values has always been part of schooling and is not an additional burden.
There is evidence reported by the Alice Springs News that some schools are part of the problem rather than the solution.
In my opinion it is timely to examine the part that schools are playing or not playing in the Aboriginal youth crisis in our town.

Anger with out-of-control kids: council needs to step up
@Jack1 Of course parents should step up but that sentiment has been expressed dozens of times and it is clear that they won’t or can’t.
We have to go beyond wishful thinking.
It is logical to try to influence these kids on their first contact with our institutions and that’s school.
Yipirinya at the primary level and Yirara for secondary are the main ones.
Imagine the benefits of heading off these kids at an early age, before they become street criminals and in time prisoners at the local jail.
Michael Liddle says that Alice Springs has people who have no regard for western rules or property within the municipal area of Alice Springs.
Schools are not responsible for this or at fault but they should be addressing the issue as far as they can in my opinion.
Having regard for western rules and property should be part of schooling.

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