Alice, it is an offence to skate in the mall. …

Comment on Mall skater’s $576 fine: is it fair? by Ray.

Alice, it is an offence to skate in the mall. Check facts first please.

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Mall skater’s $576 fine: is it fair?
Peter, you said I made a lot of assumptions, but only point out one. I make no assumptions about his behaviour, it is in the report “he asked the rangers to show him their id first”. Yes, the by-law is very clear where it states they have the power to request ID be shown.
Maybe this is a common law right, but the bylaw is very clear that the rangers have the right and authority to ask for ID.
The article states that “this went on, backwards and forwards, for some time”. So without making assumptions, and based on the article, the rangers identified themselves, and even after doing so, Marco continued to argue “for some time”, refusing to show ID.
His refusal now has the Police involved. What a waste of resources!
Who said anything about corruption, or absolute power? The rangers are doing their job, within the extent of their powers.
Well done to the Rangers for having the guts to actually do their job, and well said Steve Brown!

Mall skater’s $576 fine: is it fair?
I can’t believe the number of people commenting here saying he was fined for skating in the Mall. He was not fined for skating, he was fined for failing to produce ID when told to. Hal, that is worth 4 penalty units.
Let’s turn the offender into a victim once again!
Look up the bylaws. Section 74 states that you must produce ID when asked.
So to set the scene, two uniformed, adult rangers approach this kid to inform him he can’t skate in the Mall. They ask for his ID, as they are entitled to do. Instead of respecting authority and doing what he was told, he begins to argue, and refuses.
Therefore he commits an offence and is fined for it. The ranger simply has to display his badge, which the article says was displayed on his belt. Where does it say the ranger has to produce it for inspection? So to say Marco had to “drop to his knees” to inspect the badge sounds like a bit of “mischief making” from the AS News.
I would imagine if young Marco would have shown a bit of respect to the Rangers, and complied with their direction to produce ID, the rangers would have probably explained to him that skating was illegal in the Mall. As it was they used their discretion and did not even charge him for that offence.
576 reasons to obey a lawful direction without arguing.

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Rosenberg’s rose coloured view of Pine Gap
I for one understand the strategic need for Pine Gap and similar places.
It is usually those with the best intelligence that wins a war, and if it comes to it I would rather be on the winning side thanks very much.
War is a very dirty business however we face enemies who don’t always play by the rules.
To understand the role intelligence gathering read a book about the Mossad called Gideons Spies.
The Chinese and other powers that may become direct threats to use must be rubbing their hands together with glee when they see our own citizens trying to tear down the defence network that has been built up over the years, given time and enough left wing protests to gradually chip away at what is necessary, they will be able to walk in one day and become our new masters with a lot less effort thanks to traitors who would have Pine Gap close its doors.
Our allies may use drone strikes which may go astray from time to time, but remember our enemies are more than happy to use aeroplanes full of people to achieve the same result.
The Americans who work for this vital asset are welcome and important to this town, and actively contribute to it whenever they can.
The reason you don’t get told some of the stuff they uncover is that if you knew the threats that exist, you would awake all night in fear.
Pine Gap is a line of defence between us and out nightmares that allow us to sleep at night. The threats are real, and the world is not unicorns and rainbows.

Black lives: generations pass; racism, custody deaths continue
Apologies to Ralph Folds. I misread the very beginning if the post, and mistook the word can for can’t. Happy to retract that.

Black lives: generations pass; racism, custody deaths continue
What a shame GC starts off with a completely incorrect statement about the establishment of Police in Australia and then goes on to denigrate NT Police along with Ralph Folds by describing them as racist, violent and corrupt. I know we have freedom of speech in the country but to be able to make such a sweeping and deplorable statement like this is not only deplorable but an outright lie.
Like any organisation there may be certain members who do not uphold the values and ethics of the organisation, but to generalise the men and women on the NT Police is a slap in the face for every one of them, who commit themselves to the safety and protection of those in the community they serve. You cannot work effectively in a remote place like the Territory unless you are trusted and respected. Many of the police in these postings have earned this respect over the years through hard work and understanding.
For anybody to denigrate the work of our outstanding Officers, who put their lives on the line every single time they put on the uniform, is a disgrace. Take the time occasionally to read the judgement decisions or sentencing remarks from the NT Courts website and you may begin to understand the horrific violence and trauma many of these Officers deal with, protecting the victim and taking the (often) violent offender into custody, where the law is applied through the courts, regardless of colour, often after more than one warning.
With all the crap we are going through, I believe that NT Police members are some of the best in the country and have the respect of me, my friends of many different backgrounds and most likely more Aboriginal people than these detractors would want to believe. The posters of this divisive drivel need to hang their heads in shame, for they are a major part of the problem.

Black lives: generations pass; racism, custody deaths continue
Every time your phone rings at 3 or 4am? Whose phone rigs at that time?
Obviously most of the time it does it is not the bad news she is fearing. Does this happen a lot? That seems very strange.
So many accusations based on how others feel, presenting statements that are not open to scrutiny, just presented as fact?
No mention of the latest figures, just divisive, accusations to further divide our town. Nothing about the yearly police Officer of the Year awards, making a huge difference to the lives of communities and Aboriginal kids, just hatred and ignorance of the opportunities that many of the Aboriginal people in this town enjoy through their own efforts and desire to better themselves.
Twenty-five years have passed since the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody (RCIADIC).
The latest research examines the trends and characteristics of Indigenous deaths in custody since 1991–92, using data obtained through the National Deaths in Custody Program (NDICP).
NDICP data show Indigenous people are now less likely than non-Indigenous people to die in prison custody, largely due to a decrease in the death rate of Indigenous prisoners from 1999–2000 to 2005–06.
Coinciding with this decrease in the death rate of Indigenous prisoners is a decrease in the hanging death rate of Indigenous prisoners.
Monitoring trends and characteristics of both Indigenous and non-Indigenous deaths in custody supports the development of proactive strategies addressing this important issue.
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CLP would build gallery at Desert Park, not Anzac precinct
Alex, the biggest irony of your comment is you fail to see that my comment was pure sarcasm. How ironic!

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