@Alice, you obviously know where to find the by-laws, as …

Comment on Will the NOs have it on skating in the mall? by Ray.

@Alice, you obviously know where to find the by-laws, as you have reprinted what I had done previously, so your comment saying it is not illegal to ride a skateboard in the mall is strange indeed. It IS illegal, read the by laws again. Section 53 (1)(b) says it pretty clearly.
The fine is one penalty unit.

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Will the NOs have it on skating in the mall?
Hi Hal, this info is available on the public domain.
Alice Springs (Management of Public Places) By-laws 2009
Authorised person means either a person appointed by Council under Division 1 of Part 9.6 of the Local Government Act or a member of the Police Force.

75 Proof of identity
(1) Where an authorised person:
(a) reasonably suspects a person of having committed an offence against these By-laws; and
(b) informs the person that it is the intention of the authorised person to caution or prosecute the person in respect of that offence the authorised person may require the person to provide further evidence of identity of a specified kind.
(2) A person who, without reasonable excuse, fails to provide the further proof of identity required under clause (1) is guilty of an offence.
73(1) Hindering or obstructing
authorized person. 4 Penalty units
74(2) Failing to provide required information 4 Penalty units
74(3) Providing false information 5 Penalty units
75(2) Failing to provide evidence of identity without reasonable excuse 4.
Hope this Hopes Hal, and I do agree with your 2 major points of concern.


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And on the definition, what is he intention of the word “dispenses”. You can dispense of something by giving it away, or by supplying it. “Dispenses of” or “dispenses with”?


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Interesting arguments on interpretation by Kieran and Confused. The question must now be, after a careful reading, is the by-law or its enforceability dispensed with, or merely the requirement to obtain permits in relation to those activities?


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@ CAYJ: It is not as simple as relying on a fact check from The Conversation, it would be easy to post a contrary view from any other source, which is more right leaning.
This is the problem with non-independent news sources, as a lot of the stories they present are flavoured by the news services they subscribe to.
This is one of the reasons I like the Alice Springs News, as it is not controlled and is truly independent.
When you say that the Northbridge curfew did not work, you need to expand on that with “which part” did not work as there are many aspects to it.
One of the criticisms of it is that critics state it moved offenders from one part (Northbridge) to another part of town.
This would not happen in Alice Springs because there is only one CBD area, not neighbouring ones like in Perth.
Again it depends on who you talk to to see the effectiveness of it. Talk to business owners, it was a success because it did see a displacement of the youths who were committing the crimes in the area (and other reasons), and despite a spike in 2007, it is now significantly lower.
Talk to social justice agencies and they will claim it was not a success due to it targeting Aboriginal youth and their rights (and other reasons).
Unfortunately I and many of my friends will not go into the Alice Springs CBD at night any more due to the very real risk of vehicles being damaged, being involved in or witnessing anti social behaviour, or coming home to a damaged house.
Look at the number of restaurants that have closed over the years, you can only afford so much insurance.
There are numerous examples of this occurring from either social contacts or social media (with photos and or video to substantiate the claims).
Regardless of the Northbridge example, the common theme is that we need some form of curfew, maybe not the exact same one. Everything we have tried before has failed to work, and it is now as bad as it has ever been.


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I for one understand the strategic need for Pine Gap and similar places.
It is usually those with the best intelligence that wins a war, and if it comes to it I would rather be on the winning side thanks very much.
War is a very dirty business however we face enemies who don’t always play by the rules.
To understand the role intelligence gathering read a book about the Mossad called Gideons Spies.
The Chinese and other powers that may become direct threats to use must be rubbing their hands together with glee when they see our own citizens trying to tear down the defence network that has been built up over the years, given time and enough left wing protests to gradually chip away at what is necessary, they will be able to walk in one day and become our new masters with a lot less effort thanks to traitors who would have Pine Gap close its doors.
Our allies may use drone strikes which may go astray from time to time, but remember our enemies are more than happy to use aeroplanes full of people to achieve the same result.
The Americans who work for this vital asset are welcome and important to this town, and actively contribute to it whenever they can.
The reason you don’t get told some of the stuff they uncover is that if you knew the threats that exist, you would awake all night in fear.
Pine Gap is a line of defence between us and out nightmares that allow us to sleep at night. The threats are real, and the world is not unicorns and rainbows.


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Apologies to Ralph Folds. I misread the very beginning if the post, and mistook the word can for can’t. Happy to retract that.


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