Erwin: Following our truncated conversation last night, I feel I …

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Erwin: Following our truncated conversation last night, I feel I should clarify my thinking on this issue.
So, three points:
There is no justification for murder save in a clear case of self defence.
The satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo is beneath contempt for hiding behind the veil of free speech while fanning the flames of sectarian division.
The murderous attack at the offices of Charlie Hebdo reeks of a false flag operation. The official version of events has more holes than a colander, and this is now coming out through the exercise by some of free speech and the access for most to a still largely free Internet.

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@Ian Sharp
Posted January 17, 2015 at 9:05 pm
As good a place to start as any would be Paul Craig Roberts. He is a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He regularly contributes to the political discussion outside the MSM.
Follow the links. Make up your own mind.


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To clarify my sources and because this error has been pointed out to me on another site, the quote which I posted at the beginning of this thread can be found at http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com.au/, is titled I am NOT Charlie, and is dated Thursday, January 8, 2015. Scroll down to find it if you like.
The other site where I first found this article is by the same person but seems to have gone weird.


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Erwin
Of course not. And you know it.
My point is that cartoons and comments designed to grievously offend and insult the religious sensibilities of any of the world’s faiths are not covered by “free speech”.
My further point is a question. Why is Islam considered fair game while other religions are not?
Every country, including France, has limits on freedom of speech. I have heard that in 2005 Le Monde was found guilty of “racist defamation” against Israel and the Jewish people.
Also, it seems that in 2008 a cartoonist at Charlie Hebdo was fired after refusing to apologise for making anti-Semitic remarks in a column.
What a pity that the editors at Charlie Hebdo did not act consistently and also fire the person responsible for the anti-Muslim cartoons before it came to what it has come to.
It comes down to respect.


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