Well Lou you could teach a thing or two about …

Comment on Prof Gerritsen in Alison Anderson’s cheer squad: Bess Price’s husband after the coup by Dave Price.

Well Lou you could teach a thing or two about venom.
I can recall a lot of game playing during the election and I don’t think I was particularly good at it compared to the Labor old hands.
As for Alison’s claim that Bess Nungarrayi won because of her support that Gerritsen repeats in his piece, I remember a lot of broken promises but not much support. A fair bit of game playing going on there as well.
And an advisory council advises, it doesn’t act. It’s up to the Government it advises to act on that advice.
It had 10 members who all had their say. The first minister it reported to resigned the day it was appointed, not much action there.
The second was Alison Anderson, enough said. The third was Malarndirri McArthy after Alison jumped ship, a politician of uncommon integrity who tried hard but was sidelined by her Labor colleagues.
And pokies, well she was in good company. Go into any casino in the NT and you will find some of the NT’s highest profile leaders at the machines. I don’t recall it being illegal.
Alison Anderson signed a ministerial approving the closing down of Whitegate camp while she was Minister.
Next we hear her crying for the human rights of its residents during a protest in the Mall – you see how we get “windscreen wiper”. A copy of that ministerial was given to the ABC whose editors chose not to mention it in their coverage.
I strenuously object to my wife being labelled “Garden Gnome”. That has been one of my nicknames for years and I like it, I want to keep it. Warlpiri call me Jurru Marntarla, among other things I’m sure. It translates as ‘Wooden Head”. I’m quite proud of it but if you’re going to use it I’d prefer the Warlpiri version.
Thanks for your gob smackingly patronising advice, Davies, you’ll forgive me for not taking it on board.
Nicholas Rothwell has surreptitiously championed his partner’s cause for years – that’s not a disservice?
And now Rolf Gerritsen has taken up the cudgels for Alison and told us that she’d win hands down no matter what electorate she stands in.
That is the most arrogant, patronising political statement I think I’ve ever heard and he wouldn’t get away with it in relation to an electorate with a majority white population.
He also told an outright untruth about my wife’s linguistic ability – no doubt being advised by Alison.
That’s what I responded to. It’s not in my nature to let that sort of thing go unchallenged.
I have the same right as everybody else to have my say. It’s a democracy. Prince Philip even scored a knighthood out of having his say despite being married to the Queen.
You may not hear much from Bess Nungarrayi through the media but you also never hear from the voters in the bush because the media either aren’t interested or don’t know how to communicate with them effectively.
Nungarrayi is very good at communicating with them. Anyway, I’ve had my say now.

Dave Price Also Commented

Prof Gerritsen in Alison Anderson’s cheer squad: Bess Price’s husband after the coup
Eli,
The incredible feeling of disappointment and the loss of regard is mutual.
Your disloyal and conspiratorial behaviour disappointed me ages ago. And one man’s profound statement is another’s rant.
Like your comment – I’d certainly call that a rant and a not very rational one either. I can live with you not respecting me, I never thought you did. I responded to Rolf Gerritsen’s putting down of my wife in order to raise up Alison.
Please read his interview more carefully. You see this is how democracy works Eli, we all have different opinions and we all have the right to express them. You have also have the right to react like a petulant, hysterical child to mine if that appeals to you but I think you go too far.
As for spitting in faces, Alison has viciously insulted a line up of some our best Indigenous leaders if they didn’t agree with her take on issues in the NT.
Before Adam Giles there was Marion Scrymgour, Malarndirri MaCArthy, Noel Pearson has come in for a few serves, and most recently Prof. Marcia Langton for daring to truthfully warn us of the potential harm the drug ice could do to remote communities.
And you aren’t all that bad at spitting in old comrades’ faces yourself. I used to support the ALP and there are many who still do that I have great respect for, and they for me, although I’ve jumped ship so to speak. Expressing a political disagreement is not face spitting, my excitable ex-friend, it’s democracy at work.
All I said about you was that you were one of Alison’s few remaining political allies and you have just vindicated my remark by your little rant. How is that a spit in the face, exactly?
Yes, I do remember your contribution to the election out at Yuendumu. Though I don’t remember you being the only man standing bravely facing an “unruly mob armed to the teeth” like Kitchener of Khartoum.
I have known members of that “unruly mob” for over thirty years and felt in no way intimidated by them, let alone threatened. And they vote too, voting early to make sure that their later activities didn’t take that right away from them.
I do remember several others carrying on in the face of that disturbance, others in the team from town, as well as local Warlpiri who were also not particularly worried by it. You remember only yourself it seems.
You’re not much of a team player if you can’t even remember the rest of the team. I didn’t run and hide, with girded loins and jaw set firm I went through the “unruly mob” to retrieve our gear from the second booth the police had closed down. Maybe you didn’t notice. Do you still expect my loyalty after you deserted us and spat in our faces? Odd.
You do no service to the people of Yuendumu by making such inflammatory, unwise remarks in order to big note yourself. But they are typical of those who know very little about the bush communities.
So tell us, are you still with Uncle Clive or have you moved on from there, as the others seem to have?
Is Jacquie Lambie giving you advice on Indigenous policy? She will no doubt be an invaluable aid to you as you bravely and single-handedly wrest political control of Stuart away from the diabolical Prices with your deep knowledge of, and empathy for the unruly, armed mobs of that electorate.
I don’t see myself as having much personal influence at all over that electorate, or any other, do you?
If you do I’d like to see your evidence. It’s a flattering suggestion.
In the end, Eli, we don’t care much what a few Labor trolls, soft headed lefties, professional protestors and ex CLP PUP loyalists in town think.
We care what the people of Stuart think. We will accept their decision. We believe in democracy. You do your damnest! Once more into the breach!
Signed: Dave Price ex DLP supporter (when I was too young to vote), ex-Worker’s Socialist Alliance supporter (one vote, my first, which I’ve deeply regretted since), ex-ALP supporter, but never a member. You’ve got to grow up sometime.


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I agree completely with you Jimmy on almost everything you’ve said.
But drawing attention to past politically inspired actions and their consequences and asking questions relating to significant issues is not smearing, it is asking for honest responses.
The divisions are already there and the campaigning for allies make those divisions worse.
A supporter [of a party] abused a young woman today bringing her to the point of tears. Now that’s divisive.


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Somebody has started stealing or vandalising Damien Ryan’s, Jamie de Brenni’s and Jacinta Price’s posters around town.
Worse was done out bush during Jacinta Price’s mother’s campaign last year. Her property was also vandalised, vicious graffiti appeared, her life was directly threatened.
She was advised not to do anything about it by the stalwarts on her side of politics and so the perpetrators got away with it.
We are urging our supporters not to react by vandalising and stealing the posters of the opposition. We condemn criminal behaviour and we are almost as tired of seeing our loved ones locked up as we are of burying them.
Respect for the rule of law is the only way we can heal our community and allow it to thrive.


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Two Greens dominated local councils in Melbourne have abolished Australia Day at the request of a tiny minority of radicals who want to tear us apart and destroy our culture.
Jimmy Cocking is not a member of the Greens but his list of preferences will show you how close he is to them.
The Greens have put up Barb Shaw, our resident loud, cranky protestor, as a candidate in the past.
She and her friends have gone out of their way to close down those with views different from their own.
It is totally reasonable for the voters in this town to know the views of each of the candidates on whether we should celebrate Australia Day or not.
As one commentator has already said it would make sense to sort this issue out in the NT rather than in inner urban Melbourne.
We are already hearing protests from Aboriginal leaders in Melbourne and Sydney that they haven’t been consulted and are happy to celebrate Australia Day.
If it comes up in a meeting of an Alice Springs council dominated by the Greens and their close friends I would like to know how the candidates would vote.


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All of this kerfuffle over a few words. You are spot on John. The terms left and right, usually interpreted by the lazy media as really nice and very nasty came from the beginning of the French Revolution.
We could probably come up with some better terms all these years later. I would have called myself progressive for most of my life, now I am happy to call myself conservative because I want to preserve the planet but I don’t want to destroy our economy in the process. I want Aboriginal people’s lives to vastly improve but I don’t think they are going to do that without changing some of their worldview to make it work better. I am keen to preserve the bits of my own culture, and theirs, that still work well. And I don’t think that getting rid of Australia Day is going to help.
When I was a ratbag, overconfident youngfella, I called Noel Fullerton a racist in public and had a stand up argument with him because I was a newly arrived ignorant idealist.
If he were still around I’d apologise to him and tell him that I now agree with what he was saying at the time. I was wrong.
My conservatism, like that of my mate Jamie de Brenni and his wonderful hard working wife Alice, is of the “If it ain’t broke don’t fix it” kind.
And I believe that if you’re going to make big changes do it carefully so that you don’t cause more problems than you fix – like the 1968 equal pay law.
You can’t argue against the principle of equal pay but did they have to do it in such a way that it took away the jobs of around a third of the Aboriginal workforce across Northern Australia?
I think they should have been more careful.
To me conservatism is about common sense, which, as my Mum used to say, ain’t all that common.
People very quickly forget that it was conservative coalition governments that gave Aboriginal Australians the right to vote in 1962, repealed the Aboriginal Ordinance in 1964, that made my parents in law and their family, including my wife, citizens for the first time.
It also gave them the legal right to destroy themselves with alcohol, the world’s most damaging drug – put the much lauded, constitution changing referendum to the people in 1967, gave Aboriginal people equal pay in 1968 and passed the NT Land Rights Act in 1976.
And during that period they thoroughly dismantled the White Australia policy. Not a bad record for a bunch of predominantly middle aged, white, male conservatives that Labor would rather we forgot.
The ALP was the last political party in Australia to formally give up the White Australia Party.
When I was a young Lefty I underwent union training as the Teacher’s Federation Rep at Yuendumu. One of the old union stalwarts told a group of us assembled faithful that we should have shot all the blackfellas when we had the chance.
At the Worker’s Club in Darwin I was told by another old union stalwart that they sent Bob Collins off to the Senate because the NT wasn’t ready for a Chief Minister with a gin for a wife.
That was in the seventies and that’s when I started to think about changing my political loyalties; it took a while after that though.
I would see Martin Luther King as a Christian conservative.
He insisted on ridding the US of the hideous perversion of racism and wanted to bring back the essentially conservative Christian value of the equality of all of our species despite the fact that many Christians ignored that value at the time.
My proudly multicultural family take him very seriously when he taught that we should judge people by the content of their character rather than by the colour of their skin.
Some of my best friends are white males and my daughter actually lives with one – a left inclined Margaret Thatcher hating Scotsman who puts his family first in everything.
We don’t mind conservatives of any colour and agree passionately with many progressives in relation to some issues.
What we don’t like is being called names and threatened by those who call themselves progressives but who would deny us the right to disagree with them.
I have disagreed with many things that Steve Brown has said and agreed with others.
We have managed to have conversations without resorting to name calling and threats, I can’t say that about many who position themselves on the extreme left who act as if they speak for all Aboriginal people and any don’t hesitate to call anybody who disagree with them racist.
My wife’s and daughter’s lives have been directly threatened many times. Those doing that think of themselves as indigenous activists, and anti-racism warriors. They have never been threatened by genuine racists, who tend to be a mentally ill and cowardly lot rather than a real threat to anyone.
Oh, and another thing. Considering that two Greens dominated local councils in Melbourne have now decided to abolish Australia Day maybe it’s about time that journalists here asked the local Greens if that is what they intend to do here if elected. Just a thought.


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