@ Bob Durnan Bob, I wouldn’t expect an intelligent reply from …

Comment on Rosalie Kunoth-Monks ‘not welcome’ in her community by Joel.

@ Bob Durnan
Bob, I wouldn’t expect an intelligent reply from our mate Paul. Unfortunately he seems to be the only one who believes in what he’s writing. I haven’t bothered to continue replying to Paul, Arthur, Bill or Davo because there doesn’t seem to be any point in trying to educate the ignorant, nor portray them as being uneducated as they have done a fantastic job doing that themselves.
@ Alexis, thank you! It’s always refreshing to see a person with knowledge, respect and empathy in our community – there are a growing number by the day.
A final word to Fred, though. I ain’t worried about the influx of immigration to this country or the threat of anyone walking all over me or my people, in fact I welcome diversity.
I’m more worried about the old guard of paternalistic, ignorant, racist and uneducated conservatives whoSE treatment of Indigenous Australians over the last two centuries has been abhorrent – a legacy you and your buddies on this thread clearly support.

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Rosalie Kunoth-Monks ‘not welcome’ in her community
@ Davo and Bill: What a bunch of uneducated dribble. So Aboriginal people should be happy that enforced assimilation policy deliberately implemented to disengage Aboriginal Australians?
The Stolen Generations / Assimilationist policies provided no educational, employment or health and wellbeing outcomes, and also deliberately segregated those of Full Descent throughout Australia on mission stations and settlements with the hope that eventually they would cease to exist.
This just shows how stupid your comments really are. Here’s a tip, go do some research on Indigenous policy and its history (or lack thereof – Federal Government only started implementing policy post 1967 Referendum).
Why not also grab one of the many thousand Psych journals that represent decades of research into inter-generational trauma and its effects on descendants of those who suffered as a result of World Wars, Extermination, Assimilation and yes, those who suffered as a result of Stolen Generation policy here in Australia.
Unfortunately, it isn’t even Davo’s and Bill’s fault they are so ignorant, it’s that our educational systems in Australia are so immature and primitive (Bill, Davo – Google search Social Darwinism) that kids are never taught the true realities of the devastating impacts of invasion, colonisation and inept policy implementation that is the history of this country.
@ Erwin, come on – we know you have a comments policy here. This requires more stringent monitoring as these kind of racist, ignorant comments are offensive and disrespectful.

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Gunner’s native title deal not what it seems to be
Diverting from politics;
Barrik (Burke) Perkins, Hetti Perkins, Mary Bray, Wallaby Jim Arrwe (no children) and Kari descend from Irlpme Apmere-ke artweye, Nellie Aherrke.
Aherrke is the Northern Arrernte word for ‘Sun’. A Sun Dreaming woman from Irlpalentye (aka Ilbalintja). Wrongly pronounced ‘Araka’.
She was the full sister of Kinto Iloaia and Etaterkarinja (same father, same mother). Kinto’s Iloaia’s son, Maori, had children who originally had the last name ‘Collin’ but one of his daughters was S. Conway, the recognised Apmere-ke artweye for Irlpme. Fabian is her son.
Kinto Iloaia and Etaterkarinja and Nellie Aherrke (all Ngale) were Apmere-ke artweye for Irlpme. Irlpme belongs to Ngale/Ampetyane anyenhenge (father-son).
In short, the Conways are the same family as the Perkins, Bray, Turners, Whites – same line.
The CLC has this information, that was set down decades ago by old men. It should have been cleared up 30 odd years ago by the CLC. Why has it not?

The water is there, but our swamp is dying
It is sad to see the degradation of ankerre-ankerre. Combined with all the other environmental damage and mess around the town.
The community hoped Lhere Artepe would have been more active in the area of protecting and looking after country.
Unfortunately, they’d rather fight over who can speak for what, rather than organise and activate, grab a rake, shovel or fill up a ute to clear the rubbish throughout and look after these once special places.

Horses perish in abandoned Aboriginal outstation
Terrible to see. Outstations were built at a time when desert people still cared about maintaining their culture, heritage, the land of their forefathers, protecting country and sacred sites.
There are a couple of strongholds, but mostly these homelands are “weekend-jobs” at best.
Today outstations are more often bickered over from afar, than maintained by committed, healthy people.
If cultural knowledge and language continues in this decline, the ownership, inheritance and residence of these outstations will be an area to look out for, particularly closer to town.
Where once land was inherited via traditional inheritance, now people with distant claims exercising European style property rights, or knowledge only of English are resident king-pins.

Native title organisation has $3.7m in the bank
Jeff, well pointed out there. Lhere Artepe is not responsible for housing, health, education etc, the relevant Government Departments are responsible for those portfolios.
Often misguided folk like to level blame any Indigenous corporation, or land council when the provision of these services are the responsibility of government. While interstate locales may celebrate progress in Closing the Gap, it’s safe to say our region and the government departments responsible have a long, long way to go.
That said, LAAC could do well to focus on promoting Arrernte language throughout the town including dual place-name signage (updating bad spelling).
They could be lobbying to ensure all Arrernte people have access to learning their language, promoting the historic story of the Arrernte, raising funds to clean up areas of land that are used by Alice Springs residents as white-goods garbage dumps, or “sacred sites” littered with rubbish and covered with buffel grass that would have ancestors turning in their graves.
Further, they could be ensuring key Apmereke-artweye and truely knowledgeable Kwertengwerle are educated and well versed (and taught in Arrernte) the mechanisms of Native Title Law and what their roles and responsibilities are as board members.
Any moneys raised through the sale of land should be solely for community development projects, and no royalty payments should ever be made.
Arrernte people should also have access to the FULL Native Title determination (cough*) and related research to negate the current day needless infighting relating to “who belongs where”, that is often played out in the Alice Sprigs News or Facebook.
The CLC and its anthros should assist with this given they are the current custodians of all records and information relevant to the Native Title Claim.

Given it’s nearly 20 years since LAAC was established, the community deserves to see some positive action and results.

Gunner says fresh talks about gallery at Anzac Hill precinct
Mparntwe does not mean ‘meeting place for ceremony visitors’, lol.

Where does your patriline take you? Why are you speaking about the Peltharre/Kngwarraye anyenhenge of Mparntwe? Don’t you guys come from Penangke/Pengarte ancestors of Ntulye? Which Peltharre/Kngwarraye ancestors do you descend from? There is a reason the Stevens family are apmere-ke artweye, they have an unbroken patriline (no European ancestry) to the Peltharre/Kngwarraye ancestors who inhabited Alice Springs, well before Europeans arrived. Utnerrengatye-ke artweye, Akngwelye-ke artweye.

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