Interested: Whether or not you attend Council bothers me not …

Comment on 1 Territory party pledges to be a force by Steve Brown.

Interested: Whether or not you attend Council bothers me not at all. However may I suggest you actually get out of the house a bit and have a look around.
As the founder of Advance Alice, the organisation which put people on the street in protest at law and order issues a few years ago, I can tell you that although we still have issues in the area of law and order, but the improvement over the past three years of CLP Government is quite remarkable.
As is the level of cleanliness of our town. In recent times ASTC has received a number of visits from people who have returned to town after being away for some time, dropping in to compliment the Council on the huge improvement on the town’s look and feel, between then and now.
People don’t do that lightly, Interested. So credit due where credit is due!
I, like many, have been disillusioned by the selfish behavior of some of our CLP Members over the term.
However, I am led to believe that a mechanism similar to that proposed by the Territory Party will be used to enforce loyalty and conformity in the team from the next election onwards.
From then on its simply about pre-selecting the “right candidates” and that, Interested, is true of any party!
As for the Territory Party it appears to me to be just another extension of the turmoil that divided the CLP, too many people not prepared to work within the system, to put their differences aside, too many people willing to stand on the heads of others in a selfish grab for power driven by self interest as opposed to community interest.
I, like many, have at times dreamed of a new party to lead the way. In that dream I imagined a party driven by belief, by passion, by policy designed to bring our community together, to help it grow and prosper, in another words a dream looking for a party. Instead we’ve been offered a party looking for a dream!
Think I’ll stick with the devil I know and help him rebuild.

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1 Territory party pledges to be a force
@ Russell: I prefer to work in the real world driving the policies I believe in.
I’m sorry but I really don’t have the time or the patience for the pipe dreams of academia such as those Phil posted at the bottom of this page. Policies are not one liners jotted down in a moment of idle thought.
You’ll be pleased to know there are at least a couple of proposals for retirement villages in various stages of planning at the moment, one being proposed here at White Gums in a village rural living style and another proposed for Stephens Rd behind Lasseters.
This project is currently in negotiation with Native Title holders, I believe.
I have also heard rumors of another couple of projects but haven’t seen anything concrete to date. However, the rapidly rising need for such facilities in the Alice is very much on the mind of both government and private industry at all levels.
Retirement is a whole new industry that the Alice could take up, and I’m not just talking about local retirees but attracting southerners in search of a warmer, drier climate.
Most importantly these projects will help us to retain many of our more senior citizens along with their invaluable corporate knowledge, local history and insight, the kind of information the Territory needs to retain if its ever going to stop reinventing the wheel and actually move on. I
I swear at times living in Alice really does feel like being trapped in Ground Hog Day! Retaining our more experienced citizens should be a big help in breaking that cycle.
Would you believe that one of the new chum candidates in the recent by-election actually flagged the idea of a mall / car free zone as a worthwhile pursuit for Council. Groan.


1 Territory party pledges to be a force
Gees Frank another Snarl. Somehow I just knew you were going to struggle comprehending what I put to you in the previous comment.
I know it tough, but the facts are that the political balance in Council hasn’t changed with the arrival of two new Councillors. Situation normal! I guess it kind of sticks in your craw that a big majority of Alicespringites voted to keep it that way.
However I am well aware that many are very disillusioned with the behaviors of the CLP government over this term, but Frank they haven’t reached the point of being suicidal!
Nobody is going to put you in power!
We know what putting you Lefties in charge would do to this town. By the way I would be very happy to run a campaign based on bringing the community together, not for Mayor though, that’s Damien’s job and he does it very well.
Frank, you proclaim love for diversity and you talk of a closer community, yet you despise those who don’t agree with you! Which in your case would be somewhere around 78% of the community.
Well, OK, I’m being a little insulting to the lefty community here, because a good percentage of them wouldn’t agree with you either.
Further, Frank, I’m not actually a member of the CLP. I haven’t been for years although I admit to giving rejoining some though recently.
Clearly they have struggled with unity over the term but that hasn’t prevented them from being a pretty effective government.
Yes, they could have been more effective. From my position as a councillor I get to see many of the changes and projects coming before they actually get to ground level.
The future outlook for the Alice is really quite exciting. I know you didn’t want to hear that Frank, nor do I imagine you want to be reminded about the disastrous state in which Alice was left after Labor’s last term, absolutely rampart lawlessness, no infrastructure spending, zero land availability and affordability at its worst ever.
You might want to look back a little Frank, you will immediately realize that disunity or not, this town has improved out of sight over the term of this government and there’s many even bigger improvements to come! So good luck out there on the hustings Frank!
You are going to help, aren’t you?


1 Territory party pledges to be a force
@ Frank: I think Frodo arrived when you did. LOL.
Your comment puts on display for all to see the sneering lefty chip on the shoulder kind of politics that I fight to keep out of the system, driven by bitterness and envy. Its consequence is always destructive.
I know it will embitter you even more, Frank, but in Council we nearly always work as a team, many of our decisions are unanimous!
Yep, lefties and conservatives together with a single intention of progressing our community!
So what’s your contribution, Frank? Sneering comments from hidden corners of the room is hardly a worthwhile contribution, how about proposing some thought-out solutions to the issues that concern you.
Show us that there’s more to the name than a snarl … I await with baited breath.


Recent Comments by Steve Brown

Gallery fiasco: school heritage process ‘massively flawed’
Oddly enough Domeninco, from around 1984 I’ve noted an escalating deterioration of our town’s earlier strengths and character.
Those of us who are amongst the town’s earliest families, the builders of the Alice and other towns in the Territory, understood what it took to create healthy, well balanced, economically viable, communities.
Unfortunately the vibrancy once driven by a very healthy private sector has long since given way to petty bureaucracy and welfareism along with all the blow in petty politic of envy and ignorance those sectors brought with them.
Replacing vibrancy, hope and belief with a petty mentality of obstructionism and envy, glaring down, standing in the way of, anything that might create, dare I say, the dirty words economic progress!
This attempt to save an ugly, rotten old, asbestos riddled building of no architectural merit is just another example of that moronic stifling mentality.
Crime and corruption about which these people winge constantly, flourishes in places that don’t offer hope and progress!
Sloth and disillusionment flourish in places of bureaucratic overload and petty envious obstructionism!
To clean our town up, to get it moving, to offer hope, we need to deal with those things!
We simply must learn to walk right on bye the wingers, specially the blow-in wingers, and to get right on with building our town, a place of enormous potential if only it is given enough air to breathe.


Gallery fiasco: school heritage process ‘massively flawed’
There is absolutely nothing architecturally noteworthy about this crappy old building, just because a particular person visited, walked past, looked at or went to this school doesn’t make it a place that must be preserved!
It would hang like a millstone around the community’s collective necks for perpetuity.
This building has been sitting there rotting for years yet you suddenly find a deep underlying passion and love for it when another use for its location is found?
I cry BS on this claim!
You are simply being obstructionist! As per usual I might add!
Keeping old completely un-noteworthy buildings in premier positions simply creates an enormously expensive ulcerating rot in the central locations of town, forcing us to extend our CBD over a wider and wider area destroying along with that expansion any chance of creating a thriving central CBD.
So while there certainly are buildings that are noteworthy and worth preserving despite this fact ie Flynn Church and Adelaide House etc.
Much less noteworthy building such as this old school must give way to the new!


Private forecaster tips massive rains for Alice
Heavy rains will certainly be welcome, no doubt about it Ed, but 30 to 50mm is a long way short of what’s required to produce floods like the one pictured.
That kind of flood requires closer to 200mm over a fairly short period of time … wouldn’t that be nice?


Big crowd at local School Strike 4 Climate Action
@ Evelyn: While I agree with the general intent of your comment it is important to note for the interested children’s education, that neither their action nor any taken by this nation will have the slightest effect on the world climate! Even if we could completely halt all of our carbon production tomorrow, it would not make the slightest difference to climate change.
So by all means kids work towards a cleaner environment, cleaner air and cleaner oceans, but don’t be taken for a ride by those who seek to create irrational fears about your own beautiful world, through politically motivated, fear mongering garbage, about climate change.
It is a natural part of our world and always will be!
The thing we really do need to need fear and guard against, are the mindless efforts of indoctrinated climate fanatics who seek through their ignorance and city bred real world isolation, to do something irrational about planetary warming.
It would benefit everyone to keep in mind that a warming climate is a more productive climate, while on the other hand a cooling climate very quickly becomes a threat to all life on earth, through starvation!
Let’s hope we get to sit somewhere in between. In the meantime there is one very real threat we should all fight and guard against, the life threatening efforts of climate science to artificially interfere with our climate. One stupid mistake and “Winter really will be coming”!


‘Arrogant’ government fails to answer 20 questions
Didn’t Robyn spruik long and loud the benefits of having an Independent Member for Araluen?
Now she is completely bound up in petty squabbling about more resources.
And not one single question to Government about things that affect the rest of us.
While the Territory goes to hell in a hand basket!
No pressure on Government at all!
Talk about ineffective.
You are payed a dam good wage plus expenses. Write your own speeches and for the Territory’s sake, get on with the job.
[ED – Mr Brown was the CLP candidate for Araluen.]


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