Russel, for the last few years you have said over …

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Russel, for the last few years you have said over and over again to anyone with sense of hearing “your family don’t come from here”, in reference to “Micky’s” family.
Well, tell us, where do they come from? What estate? What skin?
Don’t mention a white cattle station name or town or just say “the north”. If they (or any other family who you choose to throw jabs at) don’t come from here, well come on, tell us where?
Every family of Aboriginal descent belongs to a traditional estate and seeing you are the expert we would love to see what you come up with.
Don’t be afraid to throw in some real tangible evidence while you are at it, seeing as you are so good at collecting papers.
Genealogies, site names perhaps, ancestors and conception sites? Paint the picture for us.
Throughout your constant slanging and fighting with other families – what have you actually achieved?
Do you expect that any family who is is in your firing line is just going to say “oh gee, Russel, you’re right. After all the generations we have existed here we’re just gonna move out of town because you said so…”
On another note – why aren’t your primary land interests in Bill Bray’s line?
Your recent crusade has seen you do nothing but besmirch the Perkins family name. Many of the people who belong to the Perkins family now can’t walk with the same skip in their step because of the ugliness you have created up at Athenge Lhere.
You have a male line through Billy Bray and this has more strength. If you want to follow your mother’s mother’s mother, that’s OK too, but you need to remember there are Apmereke-artweye through their fathers, fathers for that land who are the bosses.
You’ve repeated (again to whomever will listen) that you have been fighting for land for 40 years. Five years ago you didnt know what estate you belonged to, nor what your skin name was. But that’s OK, it’s OK to relearn, but it might be time to rethink how you are going about what you’re doing.
Instead of fighting with families and bullying people, do something to look after country, or learn to speak Arrernte perhaps? It’s never too late.
What you have been doing these last few years has been very negative and at the end of the day, there hasn’t been a lot achieved.
No doubt it’s cost you a lot of good nights sleep too. Imagine if you put all that time, energy and stress into something positive that benefits Arrernte people?
Ps.: “Ararka” is an incorrect phonetic spelling. You should change your sign to “Aherrke”, the correct spelling that then allows for correct pronounciation.

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Gunner’s native title deal not what it seems to be
Diverting from politics;
Barrik (Burke) Perkins, Hetti Perkins, Mary Bray, Wallaby Jim Arrwe (no children) and Kari descend from Irlpme Apmere-ke artweye, Nellie Aherrke.
Aherrke is the Northern Arrernte word for ‘Sun’. A Sun Dreaming woman from Irlpalentye (aka Ilbalintja). Wrongly pronounced ‘Araka’.
She was the full sister of Kinto Iloaia and Etaterkarinja (same father, same mother). Kinto’s Iloaia’s son, Maori, had children who originally had the last name ‘Collin’ but one of his daughters was S. Conway, the recognised Apmere-ke artweye for Irlpme. Fabian is her son.
Kinto Iloaia and Etaterkarinja and Nellie Aherrke (all Ngale) were Apmere-ke artweye for Irlpme. Irlpme belongs to Ngale/Ampetyane anyenhenge (father-son).
In short, the Conways are the same family as the Perkins, Bray, Turners, Whites – same line.
The CLC has this information, that was set down decades ago by old men. It should have been cleared up 30 odd years ago by the CLC. Why has it not?


The water is there, but our swamp is dying
It is sad to see the degradation of ankerre-ankerre. Combined with all the other environmental damage and mess around the town.
The community hoped Lhere Artepe would have been more active in the area of protecting and looking after country.
Unfortunately, they’d rather fight over who can speak for what, rather than organise and activate, grab a rake, shovel or fill up a ute to clear the rubbish throughout and look after these once special places.


Horses perish in abandoned Aboriginal outstation
Terrible to see. Outstations were built at a time when desert people still cared about maintaining their culture, heritage, the land of their forefathers, protecting country and sacred sites.
There are a couple of strongholds, but mostly these homelands are “weekend-jobs” at best.
Today outstations are more often bickered over from afar, than maintained by committed, healthy people.
If cultural knowledge and language continues in this decline, the ownership, inheritance and residence of these outstations will be an area to look out for, particularly closer to town.
Where once land was inherited via traditional inheritance, now people with distant claims exercising European style property rights, or knowledge only of English are resident king-pins.


Native title organisation has $3.7m in the bank
Jeff, well pointed out there. Lhere Artepe is not responsible for housing, health, education etc, the relevant Government Departments are responsible for those portfolios.
Often misguided folk like to level blame any Indigenous corporation, or land council when the provision of these services are the responsibility of government. While interstate locales may celebrate progress in Closing the Gap, it’s safe to say our region and the government departments responsible have a long, long way to go.
That said, LAAC could do well to focus on promoting Arrernte language throughout the town including dual place-name signage (updating bad spelling).
They could be lobbying to ensure all Arrernte people have access to learning their language, promoting the historic story of the Arrernte, raising funds to clean up areas of land that are used by Alice Springs residents as white-goods garbage dumps, or “sacred sites” littered with rubbish and covered with buffel grass that would have ancestors turning in their graves.
Further, they could be ensuring key Apmereke-artweye and truely knowledgeable Kwertengwerle are educated and well versed (and taught in Arrernte) the mechanisms of Native Title Law and what their roles and responsibilities are as board members.
Any moneys raised through the sale of land should be solely for community development projects, and no royalty payments should ever be made.
Arrernte people should also have access to the FULL Native Title determination (cough*) and related research to negate the current day needless infighting relating to “who belongs where”, that is often played out in the Alice Sprigs News or Facebook.
The CLC and its anthros should assist with this given they are the current custodians of all records and information relevant to the Native Title Claim.

Given it’s nearly 20 years since LAAC was established, the community deserves to see some positive action and results.


Gunner says fresh talks about gallery at Anzac Hill precinct
Nicole.
Mparntwe does not mean ‘meeting place for ceremony visitors’, lol.

Where does your patriline take you? Why are you speaking about the Peltharre/Kngwarraye anyenhenge of Mparntwe? Don’t you guys come from Penangke/Pengarte ancestors of Ntulye? Which Peltharre/Kngwarraye ancestors do you descend from? There is a reason the Stevens family are apmere-ke artweye, they have an unbroken patriline (no European ancestry) to the Peltharre/Kngwarraye ancestors who inhabited Alice Springs, well before Europeans arrived. Utnerrengatye-ke artweye, Akngwelye-ke artweye.


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