You know nothing, girl, for the fighting and slanging has …

Comment on When an elder is an elder by Russell Bray.

You know nothing, girl, for the fighting and slanging has come from the other side, from people who do not belong, and the white anthropologist.
It seems to me you do not know our family name and the ugliness that was created by [name deleted – ED] and her family, putting up trespass notices everywhere and kicking [name deleted – ED] out of his house so her brother [name deleted – ED] could move in.
The only truthful thing you have said in your letter is about my grandfather Billy Bray and my great-great-grandmother.
The next time CLC call an illegal meeting like they have for the last four years with their regular three people, can I call you in to give evidence?
I am looking after country and living on the land, not like you and other so called traditionals who have land and housing living in town.
With reference to learning Arunta, my grandmother taught me when I was young, in the Gap Cottages.
I had left school at the age of 13 and was mainly out bush amongst white people all my life to help my mother with my three sisters. You people would not know what hard work is.
You are probably on the dole like the rest. At least Les and I have been fighting for all the people up north, not sitting around like you rubbishing people, and do not know what you are talking about.
In about four weeks you and the rest of the layabouts will see results.
The word AKURNE: You should have aimed it at [name deleted – ED] who did morally wrong.

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When an elder is an elder
Travis, where were you when your two uncles went through business in 1998 from Mutitjulu to Tjukula, were you somewhere more important? Well I for one can say that myself with my Pitjanjatjara family for three months fed and looked after them. [Respect.]
Travis, when you went through law with Vincent Forrester’s brother and his son at Utju, who fed you lot? Myself and my Pit. family. WHERE was your Mick Liddle and his family and for that matter the so called lawman Vincent? [Where is the RESPECT for me?]
Imanpa, you as a lawman should be at all this traditional business every year to teach the young men going through. Guess what, myself and my Pit. family were there feeding these men. [RESPECT.]
At Angus Downs a few months ago you surprised me when I saw you there. You talk about respect, well where was your respect towards the old men and the Pitjantjatjara people who were there when you were driving into Alice to buy grog?
I wonder what your nephew thought of you, where was Mick and his family to look after their own? You had the cheek to ask me for grog.
Mick Liddle, you say you respect law and culture. You, a Yawatta bloke claiming to be a Arunta elder these last 10 years and walking in on the same business at Angus Downs demanding the old men to release your nephew. SHAME.
The name Tjilpi [chilpy] so Mick can read was given to me by the Pitjantjatjara tribe out of respect for what I did all these years, feeding the likes of you Travis. Arunta elder Mick, for the last two years the old men have recognised me.
To ANGKENTYE AKURNE ANTHURRRE: Five years ago I did not have a skin name for I believe you have to go through law to be recognised, not like some people, one side of their family comes from Pit Land and the other from Arabunna Tribe claiming Arunta skin name.
So why are you knowing all the Arunta knowledge and so called lawmen having a go at these people for breaking the Arunga Law? The word AKURNE should be directed at Mick Liddle for he did MORALLY WRONG.
Put your name to your so called story. The only true thing was what you said about my grandfather Billy Bray and my great-grandmother.
Next time CLC calls another unauthorised meeting should I know your name I would like to invite you with the knowledge you have on my family.
I for one as a half-caste do not want to be classed as white like some families and wanting to shoot people over land.
ARARKA and ARUNTA. I learnt from the old people when I was young and the great man Strehlow how they spelt it, not some French speech person who you people take after to rrrroll your tongue.
Russell Pengarte.


When an elder is an elder
Childish. Grow up, Micky.


When an elder is an elder
This boy CHILPY is respected through Pitintitjara Law. You talk about respect. You are walking in on Pit men’s business trying to take over and forcing to take O’Ryan 1.
You are claiming to be an Arunta elder all these years. Your people do not come from here.
No respect, so it shows you have no knowledge, Micky.


Recent Comments by Russell Bray

Stuart statue should have King Charley as opposite
A great idea, statues of our great ancestors representing our people.
Joel, while in the process of getting backing to build these wonderful statues let’s look at your grandfather Charles Perkins who fought for the rights of all Aboriginal people Australia wide.
Being a cultural man bred and born at the Bungalow Telegraph Station, maybe all these so called Aboriginal Corporations should come together and organise to pay for and build a statue at the old Bungalow.
This man, if not for him, these black corporations would not exist.
Let all black Australians show that we appreciate what this man did for the future of all our children and grandchildren.


The allure and the conflicts of rural living
Somewhere off Ragonesi Road a contractor was going to do wonders building a subdivision.
All came to a halt, too many rocks for digging anything. A failure and will happen again. Rocks in the head.
Let’s look at the land between Colonel Rose Drive and Roger Vale Drive. Wide open spaces – it has to be ideal. Airport Suburb. Own shopping centre. No problems with digging. Put the art centre there, close to the SA turnoff where tourist will not miss it.
The lot number 9394 years ago sat with two council members with a plan to build a dam with roads and BBQ. Areas for the people of our town would be a big tourist drawcard. MtIsa has gone ahead building their dam. No reply.
I put it to the Native Title Lhere Artepe to go through Centrecorp or Aboriginal Benefits Association so we could run and employ our own people.
Will look into it. NEVER.
WATER. There is a basin on Undoolya Rocky Hill grape farm. Bores can be put down with the permission of the Hayes Family to come to an agreement?
Money in their pocket. WORTH A TRY.


Country Liberal Party: custodians ignored on gallery
Jack, you hit the right tune mate.
We, the true traditional owners have no say in this issue.
The CEO of Lhere Artepe (LA) and the chairman have never called an AGM or a special general meeting all these years where all the estate groups could have a say on the matter.
The chair of Ilpme, Fabian Conway, has never been notified when the LA Chair Shane Lindner, CEO Robert Campbell or Graeme Smith were nominated for these positions.
This is about government representatives trying to win a seat and then forget us.
In the Advocate Owen Cole and Harold Furber were meeting with government and others but no Aboriginal owners. The same crap: Leave them out of it.
To stop all arguments let’s look at the Aboriginal land that these three people tried to sell, five lots, to the government.
One suitable lot, 8102, and another with no lot number next door over the Eastside on the Undoolya Station Road would be ideal for BOTH galleries which should be kept together.
Once Lhere Artepe sorts out its problems we should be running it with the help of an art director and TRUE Aboriginal cultural men and women on the board.
All the Lhere Artepe shemozzel has been reported to the Office of the Registrar of Indigenous Corporations of the Australian Government, in charge of all Aboriginal corporations.
It looks like it has washed its hands of what has been going on for the last four years.
Divide and rule.


Mparntwe custodians: Lhere Artepe does not speak for us
We Aboriginals respect our dead (sorry business). All I see with you people and the two ministers it’s all about money. Let’s build at the Desert Knowledge. The cultural centre and art gallery together.


Council says ‘no’ to government gallery offer
Lhere Artepe closed for the last six months not because of the virus.
The CEO was on holidays in Darwin.
There has not been a meeting by all estate groups for him to be granted leave.
Dale Wakefield, you are doing what the CLC have done all these years – listening to people who do not belong to our Arunta Country making trouble.
For instance Graham Smith and his family are Yawatta people from Utopia.
Their grandmother Tilly Tilmouth and her brother Roy Tilmouth (the father of Bruce Tilmouth) born and bred Yawatta.
Last year we had a meeting 60 of us men in the room at Anzac Hill with some of your people and Benedict Steven chaired the meeting.
The decision for the art gallery was 60 against, nil for.
So, we would like you and Graham Smith to organise a meeting, rather sooner than later, for Graham to explain who he is and where he originates from.
There seems to be one estate group, Maparntwe, with Robert’s family making all the decisions.


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