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Comment on CLC members want forensic probe into their organisation by Russell Bray.

Erwin: I praised the man up for not siding with CLC like the rest of the Aboriginal Corporations Ingerreke, Lhere Artepe, Ilpma and the NT Government who receive government money and not going to the outstations. Maybe I should not have mentioned Amoonguna. I do not know.

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CLC members want forensic probe into their organisation
We, the Bray and Tickner family of 16 Mile Outstation (since 2012), have been on the Tangentyere work program for the same period, for which Centrelink provides the money.
On Monday Lesley rang Tangentyere admin to have a bobcat picked up, which he had worked on over the week end.
The person told him no as Central Land Council have blocked 16 mile from the work program. According to Mathew he was told the police maybe removing us from our rightful home land.
Once again Central Land Council have come through the back door not informing the CEO who knew nothing about it and the board to have this passed.
This is racial discrimination against our family. Yesterday (Tuesday) we had a meeting with Walter Shaw, who told us that Tangentyere is there for the people and not Central Land Council.
Walter told us Central Land Council tried it with Amoonguna whom they service as well.
Who do these people think they are?
Bob Gosford (a lawyer from Central Land Council) on the 19th had a meeting with the executive.
I believe the CLC executive board to be acting illegally, because Ngala Kunoth Monks was nominated by three people from the Mbantwe Group of Lhere Artepe and not the full nine directors of Untulye and Ilpme, for these people had trespass notices put on them by the mother.
We were on the Agenda but not invited.

CLC members want forensic probe into their organisation
Well said June, more of it. Great. ho owns the land?
The other week I saw the CEO of Land Management NT Government in the office of birth deaths and marriages.
The conversation was about a caveat to put on the 16 Mile outstation to stop Central Land Council kicking my family off.
The CEO told me that a caveat would be useless because no one owns the Freehold Land. Central Land Council is just the caretaker of the land trust which comes under the name of Thenge Lhere which is a corporation under ORIC in Canberra and they do not own the land.
The land belongs to all the Aboriginal people from Northern Arunta for the deed is for everyone who has an interest in their ancestors’ land.
So what gives Bob Gosford, lawyer at Central Land Council, the authority to go to an executive meeting with our names on the agenda and not invite us to fight for our rights?
The bit of Stock Route, 4000 hectares, which is part of Burt Plain, belong to the Northern Arunta People for everyone.

CLC members want forensic probe into their organisation
About time our people have stood up for themselves after all these years since the Australian government / Central Land Council took over their lives 1976 and ruined the future of all our children.

Recent Comments by Russell Bray

Stuart statue should have King Charley as opposite
A great idea, statues of our great ancestors representing our people.
Joel, while in the process of getting backing to build these wonderful statues let’s look at your grandfather Charles Perkins who fought for the rights of all Aboriginal people Australia wide.
Being a cultural man bred and born at the Bungalow Telegraph Station, maybe all these so called Aboriginal Corporations should come together and organise to pay for and build a statue at the old Bungalow.
This man, if not for him, these black corporations would not exist.
Let all black Australians show that we appreciate what this man did for the future of all our children and grandchildren.

The allure and the conflicts of rural living
Somewhere off Ragonesi Road a contractor was going to do wonders building a subdivision.
All came to a halt, too many rocks for digging anything. A failure and will happen again. Rocks in the head.
Let’s look at the land between Colonel Rose Drive and Roger Vale Drive. Wide open spaces – it has to be ideal. Airport Suburb. Own shopping centre. No problems with digging. Put the art centre there, close to the SA turnoff where tourist will not miss it.
The lot number 9394 years ago sat with two council members with a plan to build a dam with roads and BBQ. Areas for the people of our town would be a big tourist drawcard. MtIsa has gone ahead building their dam. No reply.
I put it to the Native Title Lhere Artepe to go through Centrecorp or Aboriginal Benefits Association so we could run and employ our own people.
Will look into it. NEVER.
WATER. There is a basin on Undoolya Rocky Hill grape farm. Bores can be put down with the permission of the Hayes Family to come to an agreement?
Money in their pocket. WORTH A TRY.

Country Liberal Party: custodians ignored on gallery
Jack, you hit the right tune mate.
We, the true traditional owners have no say in this issue.
The CEO of Lhere Artepe (LA) and the chairman have never called an AGM or a special general meeting all these years where all the estate groups could have a say on the matter.
The chair of Ilpme, Fabian Conway, has never been notified when the LA Chair Shane Lindner, CEO Robert Campbell or Graeme Smith were nominated for these positions.
This is about government representatives trying to win a seat and then forget us.
In the Advocate Owen Cole and Harold Furber were meeting with government and others but no Aboriginal owners. The same crap: Leave them out of it.
To stop all arguments let’s look at the Aboriginal land that these three people tried to sell, five lots, to the government.
One suitable lot, 8102, and another with no lot number next door over the Eastside on the Undoolya Station Road would be ideal for BOTH galleries which should be kept together.
Once Lhere Artepe sorts out its problems we should be running it with the help of an art director and TRUE Aboriginal cultural men and women on the board.
All the Lhere Artepe shemozzel has been reported to the Office of the Registrar of Indigenous Corporations of the Australian Government, in charge of all Aboriginal corporations.
It looks like it has washed its hands of what has been going on for the last four years.
Divide and rule.

Mparntwe custodians: Lhere Artepe does not speak for us
We Aboriginals respect our dead (sorry business). All I see with you people and the two ministers it’s all about money. Let’s build at the Desert Knowledge. The cultural centre and art gallery together.

Council says ‘no’ to government gallery offer
Lhere Artepe closed for the last six months not because of the virus.
The CEO was on holidays in Darwin.
There has not been a meeting by all estate groups for him to be granted leave.
Dale Wakefield, you are doing what the CLC have done all these years – listening to people who do not belong to our Arunta Country making trouble.
For instance Graham Smith and his family are Yawatta people from Utopia.
Their grandmother Tilly Tilmouth and her brother Roy Tilmouth (the father of Bruce Tilmouth) born and bred Yawatta.
Last year we had a meeting 60 of us men in the room at Anzac Hill with some of your people and Benedict Steven chaired the meeting.
The decision for the art gallery was 60 against, nil for.
So, we would like you and Graham Smith to organise a meeting, rather sooner than later, for Graham to explain who he is and where he originates from.
There seems to be one estate group, Maparntwe, with Robert’s family making all the decisions.

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