It is apparent and recognised that the many first people …

Comment on First Nations want a ‘Voice’ enshrined in the constitution by Surprised!.

It is apparent and recognised that the many first people around the world were treated shockingly. We, in Australia need to be united as a nation of people where EVERYONE is treated equally.
I am unsure of the wording in the constitution but I hope it says something like all people and does not exclude anybody.
Whilst there is (unfortunately) some inequality in the dealings with some Aboriginal people, there seems that from a percentage ratio there is much more money provided to them.
I am all for equality, but equality has to work both ways, over all aspects.
In my opinion it serves no purpose to keep bringing up the past and in many instances it seems this is being used as a political tool. Doing this only generates resentment at possibly hatred and certainly racism.
We need to get on with life and work to build a strong and prosperous nation.
The moment the word “together” is used, it infers a divide. “Together” should be replaced with the word “All”.

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First Nations want a ‘Voice’ enshrined in the constitution
@ True But: That’s exactly the attitude that is contributing to the problem.
So why don’t you work out a formula for a one off payment?
Getting handouts based on conscience is very destructive for to the payer and payee.
If you are referring to land as assets then it should be simple to calculate a REALISTIC rental payment. Then we stop paying royalties and we could save hundreds of millions.
Your one liner, clearly shows you are happy to contribute and exacerbate the problem rather than working out an equitable solution.
I note none has been able to answer all of my questions.
May I suggest you become a politician!


First Nations want a ‘Voice’ enshrined in the constitution
So how long should we keep paying? Common criminals get out of prison after serving their time, so are you also suggesting that we keep punishing them for the same crimes?
I agree there were atrocities committed but as I have said, failure to move on will only fuel the issue.
Whilst you express your sentiments perhaps attempt to offer a solution!
Please bear in mind that in order to continue to empower Indigenous people we need to move forward from our emotions and act with respect, acceptance and understanding.
Can someone explain why job advertisements can say “Aboriginal and Torres Strait islanders are encouraged to apply” without there being a little racist slur or why there are schools where whites can’t go?
I mentioned earlier it has to work both ways.
Let’s do that and prosper or keep wallowing in the past and see the further degradation of our wonderful country.


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Well, funny this should come up.
Having a chat with a senior nurse colleague friend of mine, they were told by the NT Government permit givers “only people employed by the NT Government are considered as health workers and besides we have to go home now as it’s knock off time”.
There was no point is discussing any further. With government personnel and attitudes like that, no wonder they give themselves a “wonderful” reputation as leaders.
What hope do we really have and the 51% have won yet again.


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@ Evelyn Roullet: What I said was that, the money is never a moot point. Moot point serves no practical value and or is hypothetical. Money does serve very practical values and is not hypothetical.
Unsure what the exact percentage of Aboriginal people is in Australia. Say 5%, assuming they are working. So from a democratic and or financial perspective, the other people assuming they are also working are contributing 95%. Does that mean they should have 95% of the vote.
This issue is about political point scoring and unfortunately the custodians are stuck in the middle of several factions with very differing agendas. Whilst I agree with your “Let them decided what they want” the reality is that if the custodians can’t make up their minds, a decision will be made for them.

@ Alex Nelson: Whilst I do apologise sincerely for the typo (I was using a phone), there is a big difference between being timid and wanting ones anonymity. Anyone that doesn’t understand that in this town is naïve. But clearly I touched a nerve with you and that’s a good thing, because at least it made you think and clearly you have some literacy skills.


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@ 2 Ralph Folds: Ralph, we had a very productive steel mill in Whyalla for one.
I think you may find Mt Peake CAPEX ($800m) is a pre production forecast only.


Country Liberal Party: custodians ignored on gallery
@2 Jack Nelson: Jack disagree entirely. In this capitalist society, he who pays, makes the rules.
Like it or lump it.
The money is never a moot point.


Thinking big, anyone?
As I understand it, Australian steel has always been good quality. It was manufactured with the correct quantities of the elements that made it right for any given job. I have seen paragraphs where Australian Steel is a specification. As different to imported steels using Australian iron ore.
Whilst labour costs is Australia are quite high, compared to I guess China, the finished proven product is almost certainly worth the “extra” cost in the long run. Manufacturing in Australia was allowed to be decimated by the various governments. It costs thousands of jobs and the associated costs with that.
There is no reason why we couldn’t export steel rather than iron ore. There is no reason why we couldn’t export aluminium instead of bauxite.
Time to look at the true “costs” and pursue the sustainability that seems to be a current buzz word. Cheap should never be confused with value. There are a lot of us that want cheap and value and that is an unrealistic expectation.
The COVID-19 saga has highlighted our vulnerability to certain countries, through our own (supported by our Government) greed and short sightedness.
Time to take stock and see what is truly sustainable and start manufacturing in Australia and keeps jobs here.


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