There is no way a charge like that would ever …

Comment on Masked cops with assault rifles, but where are the parents? by Ray.

There is no way a charge like that would ever have a chance of succeeding. This has been discussed many times ad nauseum, and the same old answer comes up.
The necessities of life, food and shelter, are provided. If the kid chooses to not take advantage of that, that’s their choice. That charge is usually reserved for the worst cases of kids locked in cupboards, covered in cockroaches and faeces, emancipated and malnourished.
So you are right, there will probably never be a prosecution on that charge ever, as it is for specific, serious cases of child neglect, not letting little Johnny run amok on the streets at night.
Is this a news report or an editorial / opinion piece? As far as tactical weapons, bear cats and masked operators go? Ha ha, what is the go with the sensationalism of late? Aircraft dumping fuel all over us, gunned up SWAT teams?
Why not use the TRG, they are specifically trained for covert surveillance and they have the specialized tools. A bit like the reports of the intervention when some media made it sound like the army was rolling in with tanks and machine guns, where it was more like skilled defence force personnel in land cruisers assisting with infrastructure.
I appreciate the in depth reporting of issues around town, you really don’t need to follow the other trashy tabloids we get here.
[Hi Ray, The piece is clearly labelled as Comment. I also draw your attention to my response here to “Ged”. Erwin Chlanda, Editor.]

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Damien Ryan’s youth curfew dilemma
@ Alex: I respect your view and experience as a historian. You make the claim of rose coloured glasses but when I mentioned to people who have been here longer than my 25 years, that it is not any worse, they literally laughed as the spluttered out the words “bullshit”.
My wife has been a teacher here with over 30 years experience, mainly teaching grade 1, 2 and 3, and these are what could be described as kids sufferer trauma.
I am not doubting the quotes you have compiled, I actually gave up about half way through.
Maybe you are right and it is not getting worse. The problem is, it is not getting better.
People’s property is getting stolen every day, look at the increase in property offences since the BDR came in, look at the many posts about people who are reporting break ins, attempted break ins theft of property etc,
This is real time current reporting, not dependent on what the editor of those publications wanted to publish (no slight on the ASN, or inference they are not reporting accurately) and you also have to consider that the stats are skewed because as many people say, it is just not worth the hassle, because nothing happens, because they are only kids.
You rebuke my argument with the quip “so you say”, but my point about the town dying still holds true.
In my younger days you could start your night at the Todd Tavern, wander across the road to the Stuart arms, then onto Scotties, on to Melankas, Memo and then the SGB and the Casino. The town was alive and even midweek looked like a weekend compared to similar sized towns.
There are many factors at play too, but restaurants can only pay for so many smashed windows and thefts before they close down, and when the options for going out for a nice meal become limited, or the chance of your car getting smashed up are high, it simply becomes not worth the risk.
All of this combined with the perception of it getting worse is not good for our town, many people I have talked to have been here a long time and they are also saying they are actively looking at getting out.
Remember that even a perception can be a powerful tool, just ask the ICAC commissioner.
Once again I have a lot of respect for your knowledge and love for the town, so don’t want to get into a fight with you, but again, the fact that it is not getting better may be more significant than the argument over “is it getting worse”?

Kids ‘jumped, bashed’ numerous people: reports.
Clair: It has got absolutely nothing to do with council. Youth issues, like law issues, are for the Territory government, who control youth and families, the corresponding acts, and management of the police and courts.
I am glad that the council has not become involved, they know their limits and regardless of what they say, it will not change anything.
Unfortunately John suggests the only thing that actually ever has worked, but we are so soft now that will never happen again.
We either back the things that do work, or criticise the things that are in place and do not work.

Claire Hockridge found dead
We did used to use them, I believe that they were used to look for Falconio, and Tracker Tilmouth was known for his skills, I sure there were others.
Why the drop off and reluctance to use them in this case? If they had been used with success before, who, or which agency made the decision to stop using them?
The deeper questions are not simply why weren’t they used, rather were any available to be used if needed, is there a database of trackers available to use, what protocols are in place for their skills to be used, before modern practices commence, contaminating the scene before they are brought in.
If there was another missing tourist, would the police and NTES have access to the list of current trackers willing to assist?

Damien Ryan’s youth curfew dilemma
How much was spent by the council on their junket to visit Pt Augusta to see the success and turnaround created by the curfew instigated by Mayor Joy Baluch?
WA also had major problems with youth on the streets in the nightclub area of North Bridge, the success of their curfew has been debated, but the police certainly want to see it expanded.
One of the issues was kids gravitating to neighbouring suburbs. If it was introduced here, that would not be an issue that could reduce its effectiveness.
One of the interesting points of your link to the November 2011 meeting was when Deputy Mayor Liz Martin “reiterated her opposition to a curfew as penalizing the ‘future leaders of this community’.”
Although I respect Liz, kids out on the street smashing things up and not going to school are not the sort of person who becomes a future leader.
Future leaders can be developed by ensuring they have a safe place and are not too tired to attend school the next day.
“Every Day Counts.”
There is a lot of info on Google by searching Northbridge Curfew.
Readers and long time residents saying it is nothing new does not mean it is not worth addressing. It was happening in the boom times of the 90s, but the town was not as deserted as it is now, people still went out and enjoyed Alice Springs then, people are more scared now I believe.

Now that the Rock can’t be climbed, visiting it will cost more
@ Watchin: As far as I was aware it has always been for three days, at least as far back as when I was there in 99 and 2000. That was the argument then, that we were only there for one day, why do we have to pay for three?

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