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Apex Club ‘fenced out’ of running Masters Games bars
Russell, it is phenomenal that you are unable to understand basic concepts.
1. It is not the people going the games opening and closing that cause the social issues. The police and hospital records that you speak of prove this.
2. It is not hypocritical whatsoever to be honest as to the identity of the main perpetrators, this is called specific, not generalist observations. Sit in any session of Local Court and see the bulk of the accused, listen to the facts and tell me again which section of the community is most affected.
3. The liquor commission were the ones who lambasted the police for their recommendation as it is not evidenced based and not consistent with other similar events around town.
4. Your reference to police who lost their lives to prop up your discredited argument is a disgrace. There is no nexus between major events in this town and the loss of life by our front line defenders. Nobody has fobbed them off, I did however question the conditions they proposed, and were knocked back on. These sorts of decisions are made by senior police, not front line officers. Once again It is abhorrent you chose to use this argument.
5. That a service club, performing the same role as they have since 1998, losing its biggest income earner proves that I am confused?
6. There are other jurisdictions around the country, not just the NT, maybe visit a large event in one of those areas and see how alcohol is enjoyed responsibly. You will be surprised to know that it is done exactly the same as every other Masters Games we have here. That is by bar staff abiding by responsible service of alcohol and effective security removing potential troublemakers.
7. Using my name is not being anonymous. For a number of reasons, including restrictions by my employer, I choose not to use my last name. My points are no less valid. Maybe you wish to stalk me on social media, I do not know, but maybe you should get over it.


Apex Club ‘fenced out’ of running Masters Games bars
Russell, only once all alcohol has been banned will you and your mob be happy. There was no evidence at all that the consumers of alcohol at this event caused any of the social problems we put up with. This is evidenced by the decision to now allow full strength and udls to be sold. Alcohol as used by the competitors and visitors is a “social lubricant” used by adults at other social events all around the country. Having been involved in the Masters for many years, as an official and competitor, this proposed ban had the potential to make us the laughing stock of the country. Why come to the backwards games when people could choose from any other Masters event in the country, where they can enjoy a drink of their choice. The money the APX Club made every two years was a massive boost to the club, and was sent straight back to the community. Without the people coming due to these nanny state proposed restriction, it will be the community that suffers. Have the courage to actually target the section of the community that has the issue, rather than your blanket approach. Easily found by looking at hospital records, arrest records and court records. But then again its easier to blame everybody else than face the truth lest you seem racist. Read the update in this paper Russell. Looks like your arguments have lost their validity


Recent Comments by Ray

Now that the Rock can’t be climbed, visiting it will cost more
@ Watchin: As far as I was aware it has always been for three days, at least as far back as when I was there in 99 and 2000. That was the argument then, that we were only there for one day, why do we have to pay for three?


Climate change: Home insurance shock
From memory this is the same report that was described as “news to me” by the president of ( I think) the insurance association of Australia?
Sorry, I can’t remember where I read the reply to this when it was originally posted.
Either way the opportunity to develop the Todd River and in turn, manage the flood risk has been sadly wasted for many years.
The bike track from behind St Philips to the Telegraph Station is what the Todd River should look like.
The overgrown, tangled and clogged mess that occurs between Schwartz Crescent and out past Old Timers is a result of our occupation of this town since the beginning, and our influence destroying its natural beauty.
The fact that introduced grasses have taken hold through this tract is the obvious result of our love of a green lawn in the desert, and even I love my green lawn, but we have not dealt with the inadvertent impact of it.
This is what has encouraged the build-up of unnatural islands, and the redirection of the river’s course, not to mention the raising of the bed and clogging of the “artery” that runs through our town.
We must be one of the few towns where a river that runs through town is not managed and maintained as an integral part of the life of the town and the focus of activity.
The AAPA identified sacred trees as part of the Alice in Ten project in the early 2000s.
There were very few that needed to be kept as culturally significant, many many of the newer trees would hold no cultural significance, and should be removed as they would not have grown there but for our influence.
The same mapping should occur in the stretch I mentioned earlier. It needs to be cleaned out, the banks redefined and reinforced and shaped with caged rocks like along Railway Terrace.
The bank could be raised and levelled and beautified to become a central point.
The lawned area outside the Todd Tavern is beautiful, the river there is an eyesore and a disgrace.
For anybody who says we should not mess with nature, the opposite seems true.
The river has been left in ruin due to our activities.
We need the council to step up with the government, and give serious thought to bring it back to its former glory, as a centrepiece of our town, by clearing and restoring.
Water capture could be done for long term irrigation of the banks using green technology, and the other possibilities are boundless.


Council: push to declare climate emergency backfires
@ Marie: Just a quick couple of extra points Marie, you did ask people to tell you after all.
The claim that pacific islands are sinking has been proved false.
Tuvalavu was the prime example used, but it has actually been proven to be growing in land mass, not sinking.
No regulations as far as insulation when building? We built an extension about six years ago and certainly had to meet regulations when installing the windows, there had to be a certain UV transmission factor / UV radiation block out, required by the regulations.
As far as swimming pools go, and boot cattle productions, the amount of water is finite, meaning that as pool water evaporates, the water is taken into the atmosphere, and dispersed somewhere around the globe.
The water used in livestock productions is not gone forever, it all returns to the earth in the end, so please check some statements before making alarmist ones like these.
I agree we need to do more, but let’s base our arguments on all the facts, and not go off on alarmist falsities.


Rules for outback work travel may catch some out
This is a great result to see the regulator stepping up and putting businesses on notice that they cannot send workers out bush without taking all reasonable steps to ensure the safety of their workers.
One would hope they change their mind about letting Fair Work deal with the worker’s dismissal as there are certainly laws under the OH and S legislation that can punish firms that sack a worker for raising a safety concern. The NT has an atrocious record and it’s about time that a proactive approach was done.


Gallery business case slap in the face of custodians
1000 EXTRA visitors week? Really?
And the government leaders do not take a second and say exactly the same thing? Or do they push ahead and shift the blame to Ernst and Young?
I might believe maybe 100 visitors per week, ergo an adjusted economic input of $4.2 Million. Taking a more realistic figure, it will take a hell of a long tome to ever pay that back, especially adding in the relocation of the council or the building of the football fields whenever and where ever it is built.
I still don’t understand why the site at the Desert knowledge Precinct in not considered, with Yirara students just across the road for transition to employment training.
Even the Melanka site at the retail price and creative architecture or the disused fuel depot near Hungry Jack’s, once again creative architecture to meld with the landscape.
Even with the rehabilitation of the land prior to building it, it would probably make more economic, geographical and cultural sense.
Sorry, hard to type while I am laughing at these figures. Please ensure you archive these predictions Erwin.
I would love to be proven wrong five years after it is built!

[ED – No worries, it will be in our fully searchable archive, now spanning 25 years and containing about seven million words.]


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