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Apex Club ‘fenced out’ of running Masters Games bars
Russell, it is phenomenal that you are unable to understand basic concepts.
1. It is not the people going the games opening and closing that cause the social issues. The police and hospital records that you speak of prove this.
2. It is not hypocritical whatsoever to be honest as to the identity of the main perpetrators, this is called specific, not generalist observations. Sit in any session of Local Court and see the bulk of the accused, listen to the facts and tell me again which section of the community is most affected.
3. The liquor commission were the ones who lambasted the police for their recommendation as it is not evidenced based and not consistent with other similar events around town.
4. Your reference to police who lost their lives to prop up your discredited argument is a disgrace. There is no nexus between major events in this town and the loss of life by our front line defenders. Nobody has fobbed them off, I did however question the conditions they proposed, and were knocked back on. These sorts of decisions are made by senior police, not front line officers. Once again It is abhorrent you chose to use this argument.
5. That a service club, performing the same role as they have since 1998, losing its biggest income earner proves that I am confused?
6. There are other jurisdictions around the country, not just the NT, maybe visit a large event in one of those areas and see how alcohol is enjoyed responsibly. You will be surprised to know that it is done exactly the same as every other Masters Games we have here. That is by bar staff abiding by responsible service of alcohol and effective security removing potential troublemakers.
7. Using my name is not being anonymous. For a number of reasons, including restrictions by my employer, I choose not to use my last name. My points are no less valid. Maybe you wish to stalk me on social media, I do not know, but maybe you should get over it.


Apex Club ‘fenced out’ of running Masters Games bars
Russell, only once all alcohol has been banned will you and your mob be happy. There was no evidence at all that the consumers of alcohol at this event caused any of the social problems we put up with. This is evidenced by the decision to now allow full strength and udls to be sold. Alcohol as used by the competitors and visitors is a “social lubricant” used by adults at other social events all around the country. Having been involved in the Masters for many years, as an official and competitor, this proposed ban had the potential to make us the laughing stock of the country. Why come to the backwards games when people could choose from any other Masters event in the country, where they can enjoy a drink of their choice. The money the APX Club made every two years was a massive boost to the club, and was sent straight back to the community. Without the people coming due to these nanny state proposed restriction, it will be the community that suffers. Have the courage to actually target the section of the community that has the issue, rather than your blanket approach. Easily found by looking at hospital records, arrest records and court records. But then again its easier to blame everybody else than face the truth lest you seem racist. Read the update in this paper Russell. Looks like your arguments have lost their validity


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Bush Teacher, thank you for your comments.
I cannot offer a solution but know from genuine experience that you are 100% correct.
The young teachers come here every year to change the world.
Some stay, but many return almost in tears after seeing what it is really like.
Can’t see it changing any time soon, which is ironic as I felt the same way over 20 years ago.


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Welcome back, Janine.
I have seen you and read your words many times over the last 20 years.
Although when I read them this time I was unsure if I should be content to just roll my eyes or get angry or simply scroll on past.
You have come here many times before and told all the locals where they have gone wrong, how everything we have tried is wrong, and we have simply failed to ask the right questions.
You personally, are obviously fairly new to town but once again have the answers by using terms like First Nations, the vulnerable, and any other paternalistic term you can think of.
You will discover that the people you are talking about really don’t care about the sympathy or empathy you express here.
You have been here so many times before in many different guises, telling the locals who live here how they should have been more empathetic in the first place, and how kindness will win the day, generational trauma etc etc.
My people were killed by Germans, Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese, but I don’t teach my kids to hate them, nor to I get reminded that I should be traumatised when I see them.
I don’t use it as an excuse to be an ass**$e when told I need to modify my behaviour.
Before you run back to where you came from blaming everybody else for stopping your ideas from changing this part of the world, you need to understand we have heard it all before, and until we grow the balls to start dealing with these people with every power the law can provide, it will not stay the same, it will continue the downward spiral.
Your approach has been tried and has made things worse.
These are some bad people, empowered by the veil you put on them of vulnerability, knowing this gives them protection by the lawyers who are funded to defend their abhorrent behaviour time and time again, combined with the judges who are more interested in reducing incarceration rates than making the punishment fit the crime.
They can choose to live their lives in a traditional manner as over 51% of the NT is Aboriginal owned.
Instead they come into town at these town camps, and get on the grog, creating havoc for the residents who call the police.
Unfortunately the police know that doing what needs to be done could land them in all sorts of strife due to the overly cautious approach they are forced to work under.
They have become powerless punching bags because you and your previous incarnations have convinced the power brokers that they are just naughty kids that are too stupid to take responsibility for themselves.
Triggered by the sight of a uniform? What a load of PC rubbish.
Most criminals would be triggered, and so they should be, because it used to be that they would be taken to task and be made to think about their actions.
Strange how the moms and kids at these town camps are happy to call the police, and they are not triggered by them.
Do you realise we have some amazing Aboriginal officers?
Nowadays they are treated as fragile clients, who have no issue bashing the crap out of their own women and kids, undoing all the good work the real TOs and long term Aboriginal families of this area have put In.
Open your eyes and get down from your PC horse and understand that empowering these people does not mean they will bloom into a beautiful flower.
Some many turn into weeds that need to be dealt with to save the whole garden from ruin.


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