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Comment on Human rights, centre stage by John Bell.

@InterestedDarwinObserver. Everyone agrees that these awardees are to be highly commended. Wonderful recipients.
My comment was an observation that the “social justice” terminology is symptomatic of a concerted move to overlay common law with a supposedly superior moral ethos of human rights law.
Eg making judges take human rights law provisions into consideration when making decisions.
I believe this thinking is fraught with danger.
There should be greater emphasis on due diligence and ethical behaviour by practitioners of the common law and legislators than imposing new law.
The old law system is not broke. It just needs practitioners and legislators to be more diligent and ethical.

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Human rights, centre stage
@ Carolyn Newman: “They are only words.” The reality of words in court, Carolyn, is that it is the skilled use of words by legal wordsmiths (lawyers) that sway the judge towards guilty or not guilty. Clever lawyers use words you and I don’t even know the legal meaning of to get us convicted when you are innocent of the charges.
In their unscrupulous game-playing world, words can mean whatever they want them to mean.


Human rights, centre stage
Well done to the Centralians who received these Fitzgerald awards. However, the phrase “social justice” is an invention of the Human Rights Commission and its advocates, brought into vogue especially by the Mabo decision of 3 June 1992. Justice has always been justice. No need to qualify the word with the adjective “social”. Human rights legislation such as the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 is simply additional legislation to complement the common law and other legislative law. If applied with due diligence and integrity, all of our law in Western democratic society is aimed at delivering justice. “Justice” is a simple, stand-alone, most powerful of words. Adding a qualifying adjective dilutes its meaning and is rather pointless.


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@ Evelyne Roullet @ Charlie Carter: Charlie – I read in Evelyne’s comment that Evelyne was questioning what right does the Council have to make formal representation to the Federal government in this Assange matter on behalf of the council’s residents (the people)?
I also question that right. In presuming to speak for all residents, the council is abusing an individual citizen’s right to privacy, the right to express one’s individual view to government in an issue outside council charter.


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@Malcolm S. Thank you for your thoughts. Your quote: “Now if you don’t care about the rights of Australian Citizens or think that Julian Assange doesn’t deserve human rights, that’s another matter altogether”

With due respect, this is a supposition of the same genre as the question “Have you stopped beating your wife yet?” Answering yes or no condemns whichever answer. Your supposition presupposes the obvious answer of all reasonable people – yes of course as a reasonable (like you) I believe in every Aussie citizen’s protection of his and her human rights. (And believe me when I say that I have been down that path with with the Human Rights Commission. In a ratherlong and painful journey).

But in answering yes to your supposition, your conclusion is that I should therefore agree with you that the Alice Council should approach the federal government formally on this issue. I simply disagree with you that the Council should do this. For the reasons I have previously stated. There are citizen avenues to approach the Human Rights Commission and members of parliament in due process to get whatever it is you or I may believe is justice in any given rights issue.

I simply see Councils becoming political voices, departing from their charter responsibilities, assuming a political role beyond their charter. In the most over -governed country per head of population in the western democratic world, we all want to become chiefs in a cause(s) of our individual choosing, ignoring the integrity of due process channels that underpins the obtaining of justice.


Cr Auricht: All the way with USA on fate of Assange
@Frank Baarda. Frank. Regardless of whether or not there is an American community in the Alice, surely the relevant question is – what business is it for the Town Council to make the issue of Julian Assange, his crimes and his treatment,a formal item of Council business and Council motion? This is one more socio-political cause that local councils around Australia are engaging in, outside the charter they were created for. Taking on a political role. You are an Assange supporter, so you reckon it’s ok.
Councils are increasingly assuming a political role that must impact negatively on service delivery, taking up gabfest time and outraged energy, affecting their ability to conduct core charter business. The radical councils down here in Mexico south of the border are basically thumbing their noses at the role of state and federal parliament eg Australia Day citizenship ceremony and its politics. Great if you are a local council shire resident/rate payer who happens to agree with the position the Council takes, but not so great if you are a ratepayer who disagrees….on any Council cause that is the flavour of the moment. However, when a radical Left council eg Yarra Council, starts collecting rubbish once a fortnight instead of once a week, you can see where I am going with this?
What political role do you see local councils have in taking up such causes and can you define what causes Council should take up and why? If you are going to justify Assange, who does not even live in Alice, where do you draw the line with any other cause that may be linked to any international section of the Alice community, eg the Somalian or Thai or Filipino or Burmese residents of Alice?


Cr Auricht: All the way with USA on fate of Assange
Why is this Assange an issue for the Alice Council to take action on? What connection has Assange with the Council, or with Alicians? Why is the Alice Council taking over a political role beyond its charter; a constitutional role of federal parliament?


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