@ Hal Duell: Hal, you have been around long enough …

Comment on Miners are spreading myths, says environmentalist by Alex Hope.

@ Hal Duell: Hal, you have been around long enough to understand the function and funding of the CLC!
I can’t let your disingenuous comment about “swelling the coffers of the CLC ” go without correction.
The CLC represents the interests of the traditional owners of the land, under their instruction, in mining negotiations, and does not benefit itself from the mining royalties.
Royalties are received in trust and passed to formal corporate bodies which distribute them according to rules posted on the ORIC website, along with financial returns, open to anyone to study.
Yes there was a hiatus after the Land Rights Act came in when mining companies had to learn that they now had to negotiate access to land for mining, instead of having the open slather approach which resulted from rights to minerals under the ground in Australia being vested in the Crown rather than the owner of the land surface.
Interestingly, as I recall, overseas companies who were used to negotiating access with landowners (which is the norm in most of the world) found this conceptually a great deal easier than Australian companies. However the situation now is that there is a great deal of activity, according to the Austrade website: “Over 80% of the mineral value extracted in the Northern Territory comes off Aboriginal owned land. Approximately 30% of this land is currently under exploration or under negotiation.”

Alex Hope Also Commented

Miners are spreading myths, says environmentalist
@ Hal Duell: The editor asked me to clarify my earlier post, in that as per the CLC website FAQs the budget for the Land Councils is decided by the Aboriginal Affairs Minister using Aboriginal Benfits Account funds, which are in effect royalty payments from mineral extraction on Aboriginal land.
So there is a connection between mining and CLC funding, but increased mining would not directly “swell the coffers”.
The NLC and CLC websites are worth perusing if you want to understand their responsibilities and limitations, and also the amount of work they are doing in community development, a lot of which is funded using royalty payments from the associations receiving royalties.
This includes activities like the Walpiri Education Trust (providing top up funds for education in their region) and the operational funds for the swimming pool at Yuendumu.
The Purple House has also received a lot of royalty money, enabling people to go home for dialysis … thereby reducing pressure on services for the patients and their families in town.
CLC is one cog in a large machine, and should be given credit for the positive things it does do, without expecting it to fix all the social problems resulting from our inability to create a social and political framework which could embrace two cultures with fundamentally different priorities.
And @ Paul Parker: Sorry, I don’t work for CLC, so I cannot answer your questions in detail.
However I understand that in general housing is not a land trust responsibility, rather the houses are vested in the NT Housing Commission.
Since the Intervention the land trusts do receive rent for facilities on land leased from them, and I have heard that in many cases the funds are put to community purposes for local facilities, funeral funds etc, but this is only hearsay.


Miners are spreading myths, says environmentalist
Fascinating story about the diamonds Ken, at least they are a mineral of some practical use, unlike gold.
Gold mining should be banned.
It uses vast amounts of energy and capital which could applied to the benefit of “everyday people” instead of speculators.
What is the point of spendning all that time and money digging a mineral out of the ground, concentrating it into lumps of metal and then burying it back underground in vaults the other side of the world?
It makes no sense in environmental or economic terms.
I believe about 1% or less of production is used in electronics and other industries, and even the arguably equally useless “use’ for gold in jewellery uses only a tiny fraction of production.
What we need in the debate about the pros and cons of mineral extraction in the Territory is some figures which are produced by an independent organisation setting out the costs and benefits to the community.
The figures produced by the miners always inflate job numbers to a ridiculous extent, and the long term benefit is very hard to quantify after the FIFO workers have gone home and we are left with a hole in the ground surrounded by a denuded landscape.


Recent Comments by Alex Hope

Global statues controversy hits Alice Springs
@ Alex Nelson: I have not checked, but my memory is that Colonel Rose Drive was originally Lionel Rose Drive, in honour of the local veterinary pioneer.
However most people thought it was in honour of the better-known Victorian Aboriginal singer and world championship boxer.
I am not sure whether the change came about because of the embarrassment of the local ruling class at inadvertently honouring an Aboriginal, or that the family objected to kudos going to the wrong man.
@ Logos: My point is that, ironically, the periodic controversy is effective at raising consciousness about our violent history and thus does more good than changing the name will.
And taking the cue from Rose Drive, I like the idea of changing the person honoured to a pioneer with the same surname, a very neat solution!
Meanwhile, do we not need to balance the statue of Stuart with one of a subject chosen by the traditional owners of Alice Springs?


Global statues controversy hits Alice Springs
In the context of the Black Lives Matter movement and recent protests I have been waiting for this topic to re-emerge, so good on you for bringing it up, but I think you are wrong and the street name should stay.
In discussing this we should remember, before we lynch him posthumously, that
Willshire was tried and acquitted by a jury, who presumably were not sufficiently convinced by the evidence to convict him.
However, although I have not done my own original research, and have only read secondary sources, there are enough of these to convince me that Willshire was guilty of the murders he was charged with, and numerous others as well.
Paradoxically, this is why the street name should be retained.
In the 35 years or so I have lived in this town, the question of renaming Willshire Street must have come up three or four times.
Each time there is publicity, public debate, and a revisiting of the violent invasion and appropriation, without compensation, of the whole of Central Australia.
For many people over the years this has been an eye-opener, and the fact that individual deaths in this colonial war can be attributed to this named agent of the White State can bring the reality of this history home in an almost personal way.
Erasing Willshire’s name from public view may have the unintended consequence which is the opposite effect to the one you seek, as the periodic public revisiting of this history will no longer happen.
If we are to have reconciliation with Aboriginal people as a society, then non-Aboriginal Australia has to acknowledge and own its dark past. For too long have we tried to pretend it didn’t exist.
So yes, by all means, please name some new streets for those brave Aboriginal warriors who resisted the invasion of their land, but let us not consign our troubled history to oblivion under a layer of red dirt.


Country Liberal Party: custodians ignored on gallery
Thanks to Kieran for this article, and making the point that consultation has to happen before a decision is made, the analogous process after the event is called marketing.
And thanks to Alex Nelson for pointing out the irony of white fellas having the respect for Aboriginal culture to think a national gallery is a good idea, while having no respect for the Aboriginal cultural processes involved in deciding where and what it should be.
Is is such a surprise that there is no immediate consensus amongst the local Aboriginal community about the matter? The rest of us are struggling with it too!
However a fundamental principle is that no Aboriginal person should speak on behalf of another’s country, notwithstanding that they may be a disagreement to be sorted out first about whose country it is.
If the non-Aboriginal people try to subvert that process, they can expect to get it wrong!
And lastly, on a point I have raised several times before, I still have not seen anyone come up with the name of the appropriate national Aboriginal body to give the “national” in the name of the proposed gallery any credibility.


Mparntwe custodians: Lhere Artepe does not speak for us
@ Jack, @ WB: Aren’t you both missing the point here?
If we were talking about a generic structure maybe you might be right.But a national ABORIGINAL art gallery?
Surely it has to have the support of the traditional owners to have any credibility?
What is it about NT governments?
The CLP used to divide and rule and bribe selected Aboriginal people and groups to further their political ends.
Now Labor seems to be pulling the same tricks, find a group and persuade them to support the party line, irrespective of their standing in traditional culture.
For example, I call on Alex Nelson to remind us of the story behind the Aboriginal housing between the Ilpeye Ilpeye town camp and Undoolya Rd.
I forget the details but I’m sure there was shenanigans involved.
And as I have asked before, who has the authority to put “national” next to “Aboriginal” in the name of this gallery?
Not the NT government, that’s for sure.


Gallery: Anzac Oval still the sticking point
What they said….
1.The TO’s, when last I heard, had said they want it south of The Gap; and also
2. Given this potential olive branch offered by the council by shoe-horning a gallery onto the now-desecrated whitefella heritage site of the school, why would the NT government want to spend even more of the taxpayer money we don’t have to relocate the rugby ground?
3. I still don’t get where the “national” in the name comes from. Will local Aboriginal people want to take responsibility for deciding to call such a gallery “national” without a national Aboriginal consensus? Has any effort been made to gain such approval, and if so from which national Aboriginal body with the authority to give it?


Be Sociable, Share!

A new way to support our journalism

We do not have a paywall. If you support our independent journalism you can make a financial contribution by clicking the red button below. This will help us cover expenses and sustain the news service we’ve been providing since 1994, in a locally owned and operated medium.

Erwin Chlanda, Editor