@ Domenico. So many people whom you loosely call “deniers” …

Comment on Heatwaves need to be treated as emergencies: Cr Cocking by John Bell.

@ Domenico. So many people whom you loosely call “deniers” agree with you that action is to be taken to reduce pollution yet disagree strongly with you and those who are loosely termed “alarmists” on the anthropogenic percentage cause of impending catastrophic global warming. And on how to deal with the problem. So both sides are tired of arguing.
However, all scientific argy bargy and arguments of methodology aside, there are serious ethical issues in the debate on catastrophic global warming that will not go away or be silenced.
A major ethical issue for me is this question: How can any alarmist in government or oppositiin or in the general public morally justify the continued sale of fossil fuel coal to other countries?
It seems to be hypocrisy writ large to me.

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Heatwaves need to be treated as emergencies: Cr Cocking
@ Ali Corcoran: “The power of arguing from an evidence base–for which anthropogenic causation is overwhelming. Having an ‘entitled’ belief does not make that belief correct in the real, non-flat-earth, world.”
To put King or Queen Canute into perspective.
Four centuries ago, the overwhelming consensus was that earth was, indeed, flat. The “real world” of the day. Then along came Galileo.
In the same vein when overwhelming argument was that the sun revolved around the earth, along came Copernicus.
In essence, the Canute story is an analogy for mankind’s assumed superior knowledge over nature.
To say that man’s ever-refutable consensus evidence proves man’s superior influence over nature is open to challenge.
That is not only Jacinta’s right. The history of eminent precedent tends to make her position highly credible.


Heatwaves need to be treated as emergencies: Cr Cocking
Chiara: Climate change deniers have equal rights with climate change alarmists to place their arguments in the public arena.
In the olden days King Canute believed as sovereign ruler that he could control the forces of nature.
He found out to his great disappointment that he could not do so. And got very wet feet in the bargain when he tried to command the tides.
Alarmists believe that humans can alter and change the climate, just as King Canute believed. Deniers say they can’t. Both sides are entitled to their beliefs.
Whether it is alarmists blaming people’s suffering in the Alice heat on anthropogenic causes or deniers saying it is the natural cycle is a difference of opinionated debate that will be with us until hell freezes over (so to speak).
As the meerkat says in the tellie ad: “Simples!”


Recent Comments by John Bell

Looks like Wazza’s back
I have been asking Wazza questions of accountability for significant expenditure of Commonwealth grant funds in a charity for the Indigenous Marathon Project for six and a half years now.
As the keeper of public trust for the Aboriginal people of remote tribal communities in Lingiari, Wazza should be transparent.
He should come clean now that he remains the keeper for the next three years.
I would be very happy to get to his electoral office in Alice somehow for a cup of coffee and a couple of simple answers in the public interest.


Anti-fracking Greens: Are jobs for the dole schemes legal?
No discussion about the state of the economy. Neither NT nor national.
The Greens everywhere avoid discussing how to repair and grow Australia’s economy like the plague.


Back to the future with Warren Snowdon
Warren has an unenviable task promoting Labor’s Federal fiscal policies in the Lingiari electorate with the millstone of the Gunner government financial disaster hanging around his neck.
Understandably, he distances Federal Labor from NT Labor with his response to Erwin’s questions: “The NT Government is responsible for any debt it incurs. It has a responsibility to repay it. And it will.”


Price family were sole complainants against Cocking & Satour 
@James T Smerk. There are penalties for vexatious litigants in tribunals and courts. By way of award of costs against the vexatious litigant. I speak from practical experience. However, where the decision maker is simply a departmental committee, there is no jurisdictional power to penalise, to my knowledge.


Jacinta Price spits dummy
@ Ian Sharpe, @ Charlie Carter. Lads. Felt I needed to respond.
We are three old white men with different political views. Not sure about you Charlie but neither Sharpie nor I were born in the Alice. We are both Mexicans from south of the Albury border.
I lobbed in Alice ’67 and Sharpie in the ’80s (?).
We barrack for different Melbourne footy teams. So we are chalk and cheese in that respect.
Except that I think if the three of us sat down and chatted about things that matter with personal values, I think we would find all three have very similar ciggie paper split difference ethical standards.
Like most of us who are not born Alicians of Aboriginal heritage we can only go on our own individual experiences in the Alice.
We all hold Aboriginal Alicians in the highest regard.
We all have our own individual experiences with, and perceptions of, the ladies at the heart of this article.
I make no “snide” remarks about Marcia. I speak openly as you do.
I too, Charlie, have followed Marcia closely for many years in her activism and academic career path. I say simply that she who criticises – and Marcia is definitely criticising Jacinta in the article – is not free of criticism herself. As with all of us.
Noel Pearson will attest to that. I do know that opinions are sharply divided on these two ladies of different political views, regardless of race, among the broad spectrum of all Alicians and ex-patriate Alicians.
That can be seen from other comments by readers whom I regard as friends. That is the beauty of life in the Alice, hey lads?


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