How much was spent by the council on their junket …

Comment on Damien Ryan’s youth curfew dilemma by Local1.

How much was spent by the council on their junket to visit Pt Augusta to see the success and turnaround created by the curfew instigated by Mayor Joy Baluch?
WA also had major problems with youth on the streets in the nightclub area of North Bridge, the success of their curfew has been debated, but the police certainly want to see it expanded.
One of the issues was kids gravitating to neighbouring suburbs. If it was introduced here, that would not be an issue that could reduce its effectiveness.
One of the interesting points of your link to the November 2011 meeting was when Deputy Mayor Liz Martin “reiterated her opposition to a curfew as penalizing the ‘future leaders of this community’.”
Although I respect Liz, kids out on the street smashing things up and not going to school are not the sort of person who becomes a future leader.
Future leaders can be developed by ensuring they have a safe place and are not too tired to attend school the next day.
“Every Day Counts.”
There is a lot of info on Google by searching Northbridge Curfew.
Readers and long time residents saying it is nothing new does not mean it is not worth addressing. It was happening in the boom times of the 90s, but the town was not as deserted as it is now, people still went out and enjoyed Alice Springs then, people are more scared now I believe.

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Damien Ryan’s youth curfew dilemma
@ Alex: I respect your view and experience as a historian. You make the claim of rose coloured glasses but when I mentioned to people who have been here longer than my 25 years, that it is not any worse, they literally laughed as the spluttered out the words “bullshit”.
My wife has been a teacher here with over 30 years experience, mainly teaching grade 1, 2 and 3, and these are what could be described as kids sufferer trauma.
I am not doubting the quotes you have compiled, I actually gave up about half way through.
Maybe you are right and it is not getting worse. The problem is, it is not getting better.
People’s property is getting stolen every day, look at the increase in property offences since the BDR came in, look at the many posts about people who are reporting break ins, attempted break ins theft of property etc,
This is real time current reporting, not dependent on what the editor of those publications wanted to publish (no slight on the ASN, or inference they are not reporting accurately) and you also have to consider that the stats are skewed because as many people say, it is just not worth the hassle, because nothing happens, because they are only kids.
You rebuke my argument with the quip “so you say”, but my point about the town dying still holds true.
In my younger days you could start your night at the Todd Tavern, wander across the road to the Stuart arms, then onto Scotties, on to Melankas, Memo and then the SGB and the Casino. The town was alive and even midweek looked like a weekend compared to similar sized towns.
There are many factors at play too, but restaurants can only pay for so many smashed windows and thefts before they close down, and when the options for going out for a nice meal become limited, or the chance of your car getting smashed up are high, it simply becomes not worth the risk.
All of this combined with the perception of it getting worse is not good for our town, many people I have talked to have been here a long time and they are also saying they are actively looking at getting out.
Remember that even a perception can be a powerful tool, just ask the ICAC commissioner.
Once again I have a lot of respect for your knowledge and love for the town, so don’t want to get into a fight with you, but again, the fact that it is not getting better may be more significant than the argument over “is it getting worse”?


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Clair: It has got absolutely nothing to do with council. Youth issues, like law issues, are for the Territory government, who control youth and families, the corresponding acts, and management of the police and courts.
I am glad that the council has not become involved, they know their limits and regardless of what they say, it will not change anything.
Unfortunately John suggests the only thing that actually ever has worked, but we are so soft now that will never happen again.
We either back the things that do work, or criticise the things that are in place and do not work.


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We did used to use them, I believe that they were used to look for Falconio, and Tracker Tilmouth was known for his skills, I sure there were others.
Why the drop off and reluctance to use them in this case? If they had been used with success before, who, or which agency made the decision to stop using them?
The deeper questions are not simply why weren’t they used, rather were any available to be used if needed, is there a database of trackers available to use, what protocols are in place for their skills to be used, before modern practices commence, contaminating the scene before they are brought in.
If there was another missing tourist, would the police and NTES have access to the list of current trackers willing to assist?


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@ Watchin: As far as I was aware it has always been for three days, at least as far back as when I was there in 99 and 2000. That was the argument then, that we were only there for one day, why do we have to pay for three?


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From memory this is the same report that was described as “news to me” by the president of ( I think) the insurance association of Australia?
Sorry, I can’t remember where I read the reply to this when it was originally posted.
Either way the opportunity to develop the Todd River and in turn, manage the flood risk has been sadly wasted for many years.
The bike track from behind St Philips to the Telegraph Station is what the Todd River should look like.
The overgrown, tangled and clogged mess that occurs between Schwartz Crescent and out past Old Timers is a result of our occupation of this town since the beginning, and our influence destroying its natural beauty.
The fact that introduced grasses have taken hold through this tract is the obvious result of our love of a green lawn in the desert, and even I love my green lawn, but we have not dealt with the inadvertent impact of it.
This is what has encouraged the build-up of unnatural islands, and the redirection of the river’s course, not to mention the raising of the bed and clogging of the “artery” that runs through our town.
We must be one of the few towns where a river that runs through town is not managed and maintained as an integral part of the life of the town and the focus of activity.
The AAPA identified sacred trees as part of the Alice in Ten project in the early 2000s.
There were very few that needed to be kept as culturally significant, many many of the newer trees would hold no cultural significance, and should be removed as they would not have grown there but for our influence.
The same mapping should occur in the stretch I mentioned earlier. It needs to be cleaned out, the banks redefined and reinforced and shaped with caged rocks like along Railway Terrace.
The bank could be raised and levelled and beautified to become a central point.
The lawned area outside the Todd Tavern is beautiful, the river there is an eyesore and a disgrace.
For anybody who says we should not mess with nature, the opposite seems true.
The river has been left in ruin due to our activities.
We need the council to step up with the government, and give serious thought to bring it back to its former glory, as a centrepiece of our town, by clearing and restoring.
Water capture could be done for long term irrigation of the banks using green technology, and the other possibilities are boundless.


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