How much was spent by the council on their junket …

Comment on Damien Ryan’s youth curfew dilemma by Local1.

How much was spent by the council on their junket to visit Pt Augusta to see the success and turnaround created by the curfew instigated by Mayor Joy Baluch?
WA also had major problems with youth on the streets in the nightclub area of North Bridge, the success of their curfew has been debated, but the police certainly want to see it expanded.
One of the issues was kids gravitating to neighbouring suburbs. If it was introduced here, that would not be an issue that could reduce its effectiveness.
One of the interesting points of your link to the November 2011 meeting was when Deputy Mayor Liz Martin “reiterated her opposition to a curfew as penalizing the ‘future leaders of this community’.”
Although I respect Liz, kids out on the street smashing things up and not going to school are not the sort of person who becomes a future leader.
Future leaders can be developed by ensuring they have a safe place and are not too tired to attend school the next day.
“Every Day Counts.”
There is a lot of info on Google by searching Northbridge Curfew.
Readers and long time residents saying it is nothing new does not mean it is not worth addressing. It was happening in the boom times of the 90s, but the town was not as deserted as it is now, people still went out and enjoyed Alice Springs then, people are more scared now I believe.

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Damien Ryan’s youth curfew dilemma
@ Alex: I respect your view and experience as a historian. You make the claim of rose coloured glasses but when I mentioned to people who have been here longer than my 25 years, that it is not any worse, they literally laughed as the spluttered out the words “bullshit”.
My wife has been a teacher here with over 30 years experience, mainly teaching grade 1, 2 and 3, and these are what could be described as kids sufferer trauma.
I am not doubting the quotes you have compiled, I actually gave up about half way through.
Maybe you are right and it is not getting worse. The problem is, it is not getting better.
People’s property is getting stolen every day, look at the increase in property offences since the BDR came in, look at the many posts about people who are reporting break ins, attempted break ins theft of property etc,
This is real time current reporting, not dependent on what the editor of those publications wanted to publish (no slight on the ASN, or inference they are not reporting accurately) and you also have to consider that the stats are skewed because as many people say, it is just not worth the hassle, because nothing happens, because they are only kids.
You rebuke my argument with the quip “so you say”, but my point about the town dying still holds true.
In my younger days you could start your night at the Todd Tavern, wander across the road to the Stuart arms, then onto Scotties, on to Melankas, Memo and then the SGB and the Casino. The town was alive and even midweek looked like a weekend compared to similar sized towns.
There are many factors at play too, but restaurants can only pay for so many smashed windows and thefts before they close down, and when the options for going out for a nice meal become limited, or the chance of your car getting smashed up are high, it simply becomes not worth the risk.
All of this combined with the perception of it getting worse is not good for our town, many people I have talked to have been here a long time and they are also saying they are actively looking at getting out.
Remember that even a perception can be a powerful tool, just ask the ICAC commissioner.
Once again I have a lot of respect for your knowledge and love for the town, so don’t want to get into a fight with you, but again, the fact that it is not getting better may be more significant than the argument over “is it getting worse”?


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Rosenberg’s rose coloured view of Pine Gap
I for one understand the strategic need for Pine Gap and similar places.
It is usually those with the best intelligence that wins a war, and if it comes to it I would rather be on the winning side thanks very much.
War is a very dirty business however we face enemies who don’t always play by the rules.
To understand the role intelligence gathering read a book about the Mossad called Gideons Spies.
The Chinese and other powers that may become direct threats to use must be rubbing their hands together with glee when they see our own citizens trying to tear down the defence network that has been built up over the years, given time and enough left wing protests to gradually chip away at what is necessary, they will be able to walk in one day and become our new masters with a lot less effort thanks to traitors who would have Pine Gap close its doors.
Our allies may use drone strikes which may go astray from time to time, but remember our enemies are more than happy to use aeroplanes full of people to achieve the same result.
The Americans who work for this vital asset are welcome and important to this town, and actively contribute to it whenever they can.
The reason you don’t get told some of the stuff they uncover is that if you knew the threats that exist, you would awake all night in fear.
Pine Gap is a line of defence between us and out nightmares that allow us to sleep at night. The threats are real, and the world is not unicorns and rainbows.


Black lives: generations pass; racism, custody deaths continue
Apologies to Ralph Folds. I misread the very beginning if the post, and mistook the word can for can’t. Happy to retract that.


Black lives: generations pass; racism, custody deaths continue
What a shame GC starts off with a completely incorrect statement about the establishment of Police in Australia and then goes on to denigrate NT Police along with Ralph Folds by describing them as racist, violent and corrupt. I know we have freedom of speech in the country but to be able to make such a sweeping and deplorable statement like this is not only deplorable but an outright lie.
Like any organisation there may be certain members who do not uphold the values and ethics of the organisation, but to generalise the men and women on the NT Police is a slap in the face for every one of them, who commit themselves to the safety and protection of those in the community they serve. You cannot work effectively in a remote place like the Territory unless you are trusted and respected. Many of the police in these postings have earned this respect over the years through hard work and understanding.
For anybody to denigrate the work of our outstanding Officers, who put their lives on the line every single time they put on the uniform, is a disgrace. Take the time occasionally to read the judgement decisions or sentencing remarks from the NT Courts website and you may begin to understand the horrific violence and trauma many of these Officers deal with, protecting the victim and taking the (often) violent offender into custody, where the law is applied through the courts, regardless of colour, often after more than one warning.
With all the crap we are going through, I believe that NT Police members are some of the best in the country and have the respect of me, my friends of many different backgrounds and most likely more Aboriginal people than these detractors would want to believe. The posters of this divisive drivel need to hang their heads in shame, for they are a major part of the problem.


Black lives: generations pass; racism, custody deaths continue
Every time your phone rings at 3 or 4am? Whose phone rigs at that time?
Obviously most of the time it does it is not the bad news she is fearing. Does this happen a lot? That seems very strange.
So many accusations based on how others feel, presenting statements that are not open to scrutiny, just presented as fact?
No mention of the latest figures, just divisive, accusations to further divide our town. Nothing about the yearly police Officer of the Year awards, making a huge difference to the lives of communities and Aboriginal kids, just hatred and ignorance of the opportunities that many of the Aboriginal people in this town enjoy through their own efforts and desire to better themselves.
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NDICP data show Indigenous people are now less likely than non-Indigenous people to die in prison custody, largely due to a decrease in the death rate of Indigenous prisoners from 1999–2000 to 2005–06.
Coinciding with this decrease in the death rate of Indigenous prisoners is a decrease in the hanging death rate of Indigenous prisoners.
Monitoring trends and characteristics of both Indigenous and non-Indigenous deaths in custody supports the development of proactive strategies addressing this important issue.
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CLP would build gallery at Desert Park, not Anzac precinct
Alex, the biggest irony of your comment is you fail to see that my comment was pure sarcasm. How ironic!


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