@Max Gillies: Your comment “religious organisation” appears to imply that …

Comment on Old Timers Village resident locked in by John Bell.

@Max Gillies: Your comment “religious organisation” appears to imply that the Old Timers is dodgy because it is administered by a Christian faith.
Your comment does a grave disservice to the wonderful care that religious faiths give to people of all ages who are in need.
For any sins of negligent care that these faith organisations may be guilty, there are equal if not more sins of negligent care that proliferate in the secular non-religious public and private.
Because they do not identify with any religion they fly under the anti-religious radar of the critical public and are systemically much harder to pin down.

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Old Timers Village resident locked in
So far, eleven people have commented on this issue in Alice Springs News.
Personal experience has been that there are usually no winners when family care issues like this become public in any form of the media.
There must be a silent majority of readers out there who have experienced similar family care issues that affect so many families so deeply so often these days.
Is there any possibility that an Alice community forum can be convened to discuss all aspects of cases like this, with a major emphasis on genuinely reaching out in a spirit of goodwill and compassion to all concerned, whatever our individual views, to offer assistance – to embrace everyone in a spirit of family?
To vulnerable old mums and dads, loving and distressed daughters and sons, members of family, carers?
To show that the community cares?


Old Timers Village resident locked in
@ Sandy Taylor: Yes. The Old Timers is is a beautiful, caring place.
In all of Oz, it is the best.
That is where I would prefer to be when the Collingwood Cheer Squad finally succeed in having me committed.
In 2010 I visited Mrs Hocking there.
Looking out the window in her room and talking to the lovely staff there I thought yes, I would die happy in the Old Timers.


Old Timers Village resident locked in
@ Ralph 2. Thanks Ralph.
I had a situation where an aged rellie who was living on her own with mental issues was persuaded by a home help carer hired through a council home care package to hand financial power of attorney to the Public Trustee without the family’s knowledge.
The family found out after the fact. it challenged it in VCAT but game over.
I found out subsequently that certain employees in home care organisations get “spotter fees” from Public Trustee to target oldies living alone to sign over financial power of attorney.
Horrifying.
In this Old Timer’s situation, did the daughter approach her father with the knowledge and approval of other family members?
This whole area of guardianship and power of attorney in the aged care sector needs to be the urgent focus of a public awareness education campaign and government review to protect highly vulnerable oldies as much as possible in our ageing community.
The protection of our oldies is one of the greatest moral challenges of our time.
Articles such as this one by Erwin are desperately needed to start the ball rolling.


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Little progress with $64m management system for trouble kids
“The program is scheduled to be delivered over several years and will deliver a contemporary digital solution to support frontline staff working with vulnerable children and young people.”
This describes a $64 MILLION program to provide TEMPORARY SUPPORT FOR CASE WORKERS who are trying to solve runaway youth crime and criminal behaviour.
What the heck does “a temporary digital solution over several years” actually mean? To the average station hand, builder’s labourer or copper loader in the railway yards it means diddly squat and sounds like bureaucratic gobbledigook.
Does the average punter understand how throwing multi millions of dollars at a computer-generated program operated by computer geeks sitting in offices (probably outsourced to overseas computer geeks run by Asian companies) can in any way make a hands-on difference on the street and in our juvenile justice system? In Alice? At Yuendumu?
Could Ms Wakefield sit down with the average punter one-on-one over coffee and convince us it is worth this obscene amount of money? Or even explain exactly what it does? Honestly?


Can Alice Springs crime statistics be trusted?
All very well. But as soon as you are the victim of a violent home invasion, all the stats and graphs in the world mean nothing. For so many victims and their families, things are never quite the same again.


Cr Auricht: All the way with USA on fate of Assange
@ Evelyne Roullet @ Charlie Carter: Charlie – I read in Evelyne’s comment that Evelyne was questioning what right does the Council have to make formal representation to the Federal government in this Assange matter on behalf of the council’s residents (the people)?
I also question that right. In presuming to speak for all residents, the council is abusing an individual citizen’s right to privacy, the right to express one’s individual view to government in an issue outside council charter.


Cr Auricht: All the way with USA on fate of Assange
@Malcolm S. Thank you for your thoughts. Your quote: “Now if you don’t care about the rights of Australian Citizens or think that Julian Assange doesn’t deserve human rights, that’s another matter altogether”

With due respect, this is a supposition of the same genre as the question “Have you stopped beating your wife yet?” Answering yes or no condemns whichever answer. Your supposition presupposes the obvious answer of all reasonable people – yes of course as a reasonable (like you) I believe in every Aussie citizen’s protection of his and her human rights. (And believe me when I say that I have been down that path with with the Human Rights Commission. In a ratherlong and painful journey).

But in answering yes to your supposition, your conclusion is that I should therefore agree with you that the Alice Council should approach the federal government formally on this issue. I simply disagree with you that the Council should do this. For the reasons I have previously stated. There are citizen avenues to approach the Human Rights Commission and members of parliament in due process to get whatever it is you or I may believe is justice in any given rights issue.

I simply see Councils becoming political voices, departing from their charter responsibilities, assuming a political role beyond their charter. In the most over -governed country per head of population in the western democratic world, we all want to become chiefs in a cause(s) of our individual choosing, ignoring the integrity of due process channels that underpins the obtaining of justice.


Cr Auricht: All the way with USA on fate of Assange
@Frank Baarda. Frank. Regardless of whether or not there is an American community in the Alice, surely the relevant question is – what business is it for the Town Council to make the issue of Julian Assange, his crimes and his treatment,a formal item of Council business and Council motion? This is one more socio-political cause that local councils around Australia are engaging in, outside the charter they were created for. Taking on a political role. You are an Assange supporter, so you reckon it’s ok.
Councils are increasingly assuming a political role that must impact negatively on service delivery, taking up gabfest time and outraged energy, affecting their ability to conduct core charter business. The radical councils down here in Mexico south of the border are basically thumbing their noses at the role of state and federal parliament eg Australia Day citizenship ceremony and its politics. Great if you are a local council shire resident/rate payer who happens to agree with the position the Council takes, but not so great if you are a ratepayer who disagrees….on any Council cause that is the flavour of the moment. However, when a radical Left council eg Yarra Council, starts collecting rubbish once a fortnight instead of once a week, you can see where I am going with this?
What political role do you see local councils have in taking up such causes and can you define what causes Council should take up and why? If you are going to justify Assange, who does not even live in Alice, where do you draw the line with any other cause that may be linked to any international section of the Alice community, eg the Somalian or Thai or Filipino or Burmese residents of Alice?


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