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Am I missing something here?
Of all the 2,608 deaths in police or correctional custody bewteen 1980 and 2015, 19% of deaths were Aboriginal people.
81% to non-indigenous people?
As quoted……..

Latest deaths in custody data now available on Crime Statistics Australia
The National Deaths in Custody Program report: Deaths in custody in Australia 2013–14 and 2014–15, released today, is available on the Crime Statistics Australia website—the interactive gateway to statistics and information on Australian crime and justice issues.

With a range of infographics and graphs detailing the latest findings, the data is accessible for government and law enforcement agencies to inform policies that protect Australians within our justice system.

The National Deaths in Custody Program collects information on deaths that occurred in prison, in police custody and in custody-related operations throughout Australia.

Since 1979–80, a total of 2,608 deaths in custody have occurred in Australia, with 1,600 deaths occurring in prison and 985 deaths occurring in police custody and custody-related operations.
There have been 18 deaths in youth detention or welfare facilities and five deaths in other criminal justice settings.
Of the 2,608 people who have died in custody since 1979–80, 500 were Indigenous and 2,104 were of non-Indigenous background.

This suggests far less aboriginal people die in custody, on an indigenous/non-indigenous percentage basis, than non-aboriginal people.
Or, as I mentioned in my opening, am I missing something here?
And I agree with Jack1, all fatters, independent of race/colour/religion/creed….

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Council rejects parts of Kilgariff
“The council’s Technical Services Director Scott Allen is recommending that the ownership of the “Main Open Unlined Drain which traverses the Stuart Highway and Colonel Rose Drive” should not be accepted. The government agrees.”
So who’s actually responsible for this obvious design and/or implementation/construction failure? And who’s going to be held accountable and pay for the long-term, ongoing rectification costs?
“Mr Allen’s report to Monday’s committee said the Government should pay $430,000 for the “approximately 1967 lineal metres of sealed carriageway” which are not expected to last the 25 years as contracted. Again, the government has accepted this.”
Who has done this cost estimate? As it seems extremely under-costed given the $330k per “lineal meter” rate?
Given we are talking heavy machinery here which has horrendous hourly rate charges. How many square meters does this “lineal” meterage add up to?
And what is the actual anticipated design lifetime expectancy of the work? For a major civil road project 25 years seems a little short sighted.
How often will it need rectification / remediation works to address similar, future stormwater damage? Two, three, four times within the next 25 years? I guess no one really knows.
But if its four times that’s $2.6m of wasted mooney.
Who’s paying for these into the future costs?
NT taxpayers and Alice Springs ratepayers!?
It’s about time the Alice Springs Town Council and NT Government employed people who are qualified and experienced to do the tasks required of them!
Rather than those who can’t and keep pointing the fingers elsewhere once it’s too late and even more taxpayer/ratepayer costs to address!
Once again, “Monty Python” and/or “Utopia” analogies come to the forefront of my mind?

Outstations ‘near Alice’ excluded from the biosecurity areas
“This means Aboriginal people who live on nearby outstations will finally be treated just like other rural residents on the outskirts of town.”
Does this mean they will also pay Alice Springs Town Council rates?

Lucky the Town Council isn’t in the forestry business
Ralph: Please do not take it to heart that you don’t receive replies from Council staff / managers to queries you put to them.
You are not Robinson Crusoe there mate as this has happened on a few occasions over the past two to three years to myself.
I still have two outstanding email queries from a couple of weeks ago. Very simple queries which would require a two line, one to two minute response. Still waiting responses from Mr Jennings and/or his Executive PA.
If you don’t receive an answer but want one I suggest you chase it up. Constantly. And keep at it.
Or contact Jimmy Cocking who I suspect would be your ally in this particular situation.
Otherwise I predict you won’t receive an answer based on my past experiences, as it appears some council staff work on the basis the longer a response is delayed the better the chance of it all being forgotten about and going away.
It was once considered rude, and “Just Not Cricket” type etiquette to not respond to correspondence received from others. Well, back in the more considerate old days anyway, so my Mum drummed into me.
And could also be interpreted as bad manners and arrogance, particularly as Council is here to service the needs and requirements of the Alice Springs ratepayers who pay there wages.
Your tree situation sounds similar to a Monty Python sketch. Albeit, not a funny one.
And here I was thinking Council was all about planting MORE trees in Alice to address global warming concerns, not removing them.
Well that’s what they were telling us six months or so ago when the greening / revitalising of the CBD project was all getting spruiked.
Your neighbour wouldn’t have “connections” would she?
That can help.

The task ahead is rebuilding
Not sure Jocelyn is aware of the make up of the local Alice Springs Development Consent Authority (DCA) division/panel.
Of which 4 of the 5 sitting Members/Panel are either Alice Springs Town Councillors (J de Brenni/M Banks or J Cocking (as alt. Member), or locally respected Alice Springs based residents (C Neck (local identity/businessman) and Deepika Mathur (architect/educator/researcher).
Albeit, this balance wasn’t always this way.

It should also be recognised that stacking the DCA entirely with local Councillors isn’t always the panacea solution to “local development assessment/control” that many seem to think.
As in these days a lot of unbalanced power, influence and possibly “vested-interest” comes with the job/position. Just think “Casey Council” in Melbourne as a recent example of what our DA process could be but shouldn’t be like!!

The other member of the A/Springs DCA 5 person panel, Suzanne Phillips (the Chair (of all the separate NTG Planning Divisions)), is a non-partisan, unbiased NTG appointed member with a legal background.

Apart from Exceptional Development Permit (EDP) applications (which approve otherwise “PROHIBITED” uses/developments” (I know, “why?” is the big question…which I’m sure J Cocking also questions?) which are determined by the NTG Planning Minister (currently Eva Lawler), all planning decisions made on local Alice Springs Division DA’s are determined by this majority Alice Springs based member panel.
Given the balance of the DCA panel, I can’t see any issues with this current situation?

A fourth Central Australian case diagnosed
“Under national medical guidelines, contact tracing on her flights is not required due to the delay between her return and becoming unwell.”
So are they saying this poor person contracted the virus since she returned to Alice?
And not from where she arrived from?
How many people has she been in contact with since she contracted the virus, albeit without knowing so?
Given the average 10-14 day incubation period.
This methodology doesn’t stack up from all accounts!
Whoever you are I hope you recover and get well soon and have undertaken a strict self isolation regime tp protect others.
All the best to you and yours 🙂
Ps.: Is it just me, or is it a little weird / un-nerving that the NT seems to be the only place in Australia where “testing numbers” aren’t reported (per the ABC CVD-20 website) and Alice Springs’s residents are not even provided with information regarding locations of testing stations?! Darwin is.
Unfortunately, this scenario doesn’t provide me with much confidence in the NT system.
Particularly given everywhere else in Oz seems to be hell-bent on providing as much relevant and useful information about these aspects as possible.
[ED – As we reported the government is now releasing some numbers. They now stand at 22 confirmed cases, 2,273 tests conducted, 1 person recovered. No locations or other details are given. Erwin Chlanda, Editor.]

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