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Comment on Cool heads consider global warming by Steve Brown.

Having read this and others articles by and about the visiting climate change circus I can’t help but wonder if it’s all a joke, or has the world been dummied down, taken over by some kind of sub-intelligent species! Where in the hell has common sense gone??
You know, the innate human ability to know when you are being sold a pup! The ability to at the very least raise an intelligent question, such as why does our government feel the desperate need to sell this idiotic climate policy?? Is it really a belief in the horror stories being put about by this group or are they a bunch of idiots being carefully driven and manipulated by some crafty speculators set to make millions out of thin air. Carbon Sequestration my backside, what a shameful joke on us all! Whenever I hear mention of Professor Slattery [sic – ED] and his cronies I can’t help but think of the Bee Gees song, “I started a Joke”! That is certainly how History will view him. This week Mr Slattery tells us that we are going to face massive soul and body destroying temperatures, loss of species, severe storms and all sorts of other extreme horrors. This is complete fear mongering! A very grotesque and deliberate distortion of the facts! The language of a con man, not a scientist!
Take one of the main premises of the argument, the one that means we should all panic and pay more tax to save ourselves, “the Greenhouse theory”. This theory has been around a long time, it is an extremely well understood set of effects getting its name as you would guess from the sort of conditions generated by a “greenhouse”. So what are those effects? Well, first off the effect does not lead to extreme temperatures or extreme anything for that matter, it actually has the opposite effect, it brings the extreme high temperatures down, whilst at the same time raising the minimum temperatures so overall temperature variation is much reduced. This is why we use greenhouses for agricultural purposes. The greenhouse effect also raises the level of humidity considerably which in short on a global scale means more precipitation, more rain which in turn means more growth, more plant life which also requires and uses more carbon dioxide. All of this means more overall production of food which by the way helps the survival chances of endangered species. Isn’t all this quite amazing? A self perpetuating balance, almost as if the earth can run itself without our assistance!! Possibly even without tax!
The facts are if you want to ignore the sensationalised theories and study the available “proven” science closely, Alice Springs and its surrounds would be considerably “better off” under the premises of global warming. Alas, sadly for us however the most likely premise is that things will remain exactly as they are and always have been in the centre, completely unpredictable and we should go right on busily coping with that while filing Mr Slattery and his entourage of snake oil salesmen under the heading of the “world’s greatest cons”.

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Cool heads consider global warming
M Webb: so many wild weather changes in the life time of man. So we caused the ice age … we were the cause that changed the fertile land to desert in Egypt so many years ago. History is fact as it did happen and is recorded … so many wild weather changes. Facts … not your fiction read by cult extremist … that the sky is failing … and it is our fault … change is now available to us by technology, man made technology … like our computer age when first designed the cost came with an enormous price tag … with time everyone has one and the price is very affordable … green energy is at a cost that would put most of the consumers without the vital life line of power.
We need more money into advancement of the technology to make it affordable … not forcing electrical suppliers to spend millions on technology that is new and costs are so high.
We need advancement into clean energy. What we don’t need is high paid snake oil salesmen from the government with their lies and deceit blaming us for it all. So M Webb, like Mr Slattery, get your facts correct before you make wild statements.


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Wakefield insists on Anzac Oval, ignores majority
The longer this process goes on the more likely we are to lose it altogether. That’s a loss of $150m into our economy, just on build!
The government has made up its mind on the site. That’s their right! That’s what we elect them for, to make what they see as the best decision, on our behalf!
So, while about 4% of the population whinge about it, and try to foil the process, keep this in mind.
If it doesn’t go ahead at Anzac there will be no new rugby grounds! Another $20m to $30m.
There will be no amphitheatre or the CBD space to put one. Another $3m to $4m.
We will miss out on an expansion of CBD parking. Millions more!
And we will miss the opportunity to create much increased foot traffic into the CBD and the resulting growth in small business. Millions more.
There is now very little chance of it going anywhere else. It will either go at the Anzac Hill site or we will lose it altogether!
Federal Politicians looking for an excuse to fund it in South Australia have been handed exactly what they want, local dissent!
It shouldn’t take much more to tip the scales, if the damage hasn’t already been done.
If we believe in our community, if we want to grow our economy, create opportunity for ourselves and our children into the future we have to be prepared to accept change, to put our petty likes and dislikes along with what often amounts to rather shallow competitive political viewpoints aside for the greater good.
To put it bluntly, “suck it up and stand aside in support of the best obtainable outcome for our community!
Let’s not cut off our nose to spite our face!


The millions and the misery
Interesting article that this may be, I would not like to see discussion centred around the ins and out of funding to various Aboriginal organisations being conflated in anyway with our discussions around funding and locating our proposed youth centre.
We are attempting to get a whole of community approach to this!
That approach, if it is to be successful, will most certainly include the organisations mentioned.
While we clearly share everyone’s enthusiasm for the Old Memo Club as an ideal site for our centre and have said so publicly on a number of occasions, the fact remains that this is the legally owned property of Centercorp and the only way that we could possibly acquire it for the centre is if these organisations believe in our cause and choose to come on board, something that I very much encourage them to do.
My apologies Centrecorp and Congress if we have caused inconvenience, we were “dreaming” our best possible options for getting something off the ground, ASAP.
We fervently hope in the interests of this community’s children you will give the promoted concept some very serious consideration and come to understand as many already have, the true value to the community, and all your investment in it
It is having a happy, healthy, united community where kids know they are cared for and see exciting future prospects in front of them, with staff, volunteers and mentors from our new centre showing the way.


Memo Club for 24/7 youth centre?
@ Evelyne: No, definitely too far from CBD and don’t think the neighbours would be to keen.
The bed requirement part of the concept is “emergency bed requirement” only, as per “Careful’s” comment probably not a large demand for it. We could manage with temporary facilities and grow after assessing demand.
I imagine that most kids would catch the bus at the cessation of evening activities. The most important part of this centre will be kitchen, dining and activities which would also clearly encompass such things as after school care.
As for existing facilities: This is not a petty competition nor are we interested in the petty politics of those more interested in protecting their own backsides than looking after children.
Let’s deal with the basic facts: Governments of all persuasions have struggled with this issue for 50 years or so. They have funded and de-funded all manner of organisations in the process!
And they have failed.
Yes, there are existing organisation who have cross over interests.
However, we still have the issue.
In fact it is a large growing generational issue, at times literally hundreds of kids hanging about on our streets, growing crime and increasing isolation, increasing division, increasing us and them, increasing have and have not and increasing community anger and resentment.
The concept of bringing kids and community members, not just street kids into a central location, is not just about food and activities, it is about containing the hanging out to a really “cool” location and it is about cross community interaction.
Breaking down the division!
It is about rebuilding a community out of a rapidly growing divide that threatens its very foundations.
The issue is far greater than the petty self interests of a few professional youth workers who feel someone is intruding on their turf!
If your a genuine committed professional youth worker you will know the value of the community interaction too which I refer and you will get on board.
This is not a government initiative, it is a community movement, the only ones in the end who can really make a difference.
And not just for neglected kids, not just for underprivileged kids, but for all the kids in our community, which in the end means a difference for all of us!
We envisage that those centres already working in this area would come on board and work with us, probably moving their services into the central complex or maintain offices there, or doing pick ups and drop offs so that everybody’s together, part of the activity and excitement, of things going on: That is what we want to create.
We have said all along, while we are looking at a community youth centre driven by volunteers it would also incorporate professional management and youth workers.
This is about everybody in the sector putting aside selfish interest and uniting to bring about effective change.
It’s about making a massive difference to a whole lot of young lives and making our community a whole lot happier place to live for everybody.


Memo Club for 24/7 youth centre?
While I share the enthusiasm for getting our priorities right and dealing with our Youth issue first up, projects such as the art gallery are equally important in building a successful community … no economy, no people, no funds or assistance for a centre.
So we aren’t looking to swap one for another, we are looking to do both and more!
Importantly I can report to you that I am running into a great deal of support for the youth centre project from all sectors and I don’t think we are going to have to many issues funding this project, even with the art centre going ahead.
The cross community support I have encountered so far leads me to believe we are going to be successful in getting the project off the ground.
My real concern at this stage is the amount of time it will take to do that!
Obviously if we can’t find an existing facility of the right size and location i.e. the Memo Club there is likely to be a period of at least a couple of years before we can build and be operational.
This is a really urgent issue, requiring immediate action, especially when you think of those two years through the eyes of an eight year old child virtually living on the streets.
Two years is a lifetime, and for that matter for a town being battered by a street kid crime wave, two years is also an eternity!
So clearly we need to act and act now! All ideas are welcome but we must have large open space kitchen and dining, multiple toilets / bathrooms to cater for several hundred kids in a central well lit location.


Memo Club for 24/7 youth centre?
We were always aware that Congress had intentions for the Old Memo Club and our project certainly doesn’t hinge on being able to get our hands on those premises.
I put it forward as a potential location so that everyone would understand the desired CBD location, building size and layout that our proposed Centre requires, large open areas, dining and kitchen facilities – very much like the Memo Club.
This of course would have been ideal if it were available.
So if you change your mind Congress, there’s a lot of kids who would greatly appreciate it.
In the meantime I imagine we will be looking for temporary premises to get things underway while we raise the funds to build to our design.


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