It strikes me that those talking about “youth” have nothing …

Comment on Is the town over all the talk? by Russell Guy.

It strikes me that those talking about “youth” have nothing to offer while they keep pontificating about whether take-away alcohol should continue in its seven day per week (70% of the NT market) flow. No leadership there.
During most of the Eighties and into the Nineties, I managed, produced recordings and played in Aboriginal dance bands all through Central Australia, nationally and abroad, so I reckon I know something about grog and youth.
To me, all the talk at the Q&A describes a bunch of blokes out of touch with youth. Condoning the grog flow in this town makes their professed concern for “youth” hypocritical. Absolutely, appalling result, gents.

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Is the town over all the talk?
May the banner of love overshadow you, Janet.


Is the town over all the talk?
You don’t need anyone to teach you about delusion, Janet, but as a woman of self-professed “strong Christian faith,” you should be aware of its origin (See 2 Thessalonians. 2: 11).


Is the town over all the talk?
Diane, you’re posting anonymously, but thanks for following my comments and allowing me to have “a go” in return. This “nanny state” business is hard to follow.

You, Janet and Steve Brown are the only ones to have employed this all encompassing term for an elected government and its officers, who offer to serve and protect its citizens.

I have no issue with personal responsibility, but I object to out-moded legislation which ill-serves its citizens by legalising an addictive drug, creating dependence, with attendant miseries to the families of victims and those who are set-up to fail at helping them.

The economic cost to rate and taxpayers can be deduced by primary math and if you’ve been following my comments, you would have seen the widely-collated stats supporting the multi-billion dollar tab per annum. It’s not viable in any sense and reform is gathering pace.

Welfare reform and substantial economic savings for life-affirming activities is hindered by drip-feed psychosis-inducing alcohol in a system that despite increasing regulation, continues to create social chaos.

The argument for a take-away restriction regime has been made ad nauseum. If you haven’t familiarised yourself with that argument, then you haven’t been paying attention. At the very least, it would restrict the excessive supply which is proven to be violence-related in areas from domestic to gratuitous crime and self-harm.

Please see Alex Nelson’s eloquent post where he has deduced by equation that alcohol is the primary culprit in the decline of Alice Springs.


Recent Comments by Russell Guy

Aboriginal flag on Anzac Hill: the nays have it 
@ My Opinion, posted 20.2.18. 12:22pm:
I’m an amateur historian, but there’s an argument that the geo-political climate that caused Great Britain to raise the Union Jack over what became the colonies turned out to Australia’s advantage. At least, wisdom in hindsight suggests it so.
Indigenous or First Nations people suffered beyond measure and today assert a form of sovereignty through a limited Native Title that is not altogether historically retroactive, leading to social issues bundled together under slogans such as Closing the Gap.
There is always a relative unity among all peoples constituting a nation, but what seems undeniable is that united we stand, divided we fall.
Councils around the country fly the Aboriginal flag, but not, it seems, all that often from military sites, which still serve to unite a country in a geo-political sense, most often concerned with sovereign borders.
The social problems remain, so do other strategic sites from which the Aboriginal flag can be flown as a symbol of unity within the Alice community.


Congress call: Put full-time police back at bottle-shops
@ Surprised. Posted 6/2/18. 7:40AM. Re your comment about costs related to harmful levels of alcohol consumption within NT communities:
“You know, they fail to take into account that currently we pay $50m in the Territory in relation to alcohol sales in taxes. That money unfortunately goes straight to the Commonwealth so there is some arguments there how the Territory Government gets that money back” (Des Crowe, CEO. NT branch of the Australian Hotels Association. ABC 6/2/18, responding to the NT Police Association call for industry responsibility).
This appears to be a game of “pass the buck” with Liquor Inspectors and “new technology” attached to the BDR as a “way forward.”
Smoking in public places is banned and the health warnings that now appear on tobacco products have helped create a greater awareness of the issues related to the peer enforcement of smoking, but the tobacco industry didn’t go quietly.
Perhaps, the alcohol industry needs to admit responsibility and leadership by comparing the costs to public health for its products, but that would affect the corporate bottom line.
The $50m in taxes is miniscule in comparison to the billions spent on alcohol-related health issues that taxpayers subsidise on an annual basis.
That money could well be spent elsewhere.
It’s not an economic issue, but one of leadership in community values and political will.


Congress call: Put full-time police back at bottle-shops
@ Laurence, posted February 3, 2018. 6:17pm: Re your comment about a “radical rethink”.
Leaving aside the suite of measures so far employed to address the harmful levels of alcohol consumption in the NT and notwithstanding the absence of a floor price, there is something in what you say.
Stewardship is an old fashioned word for community values.
In the 1920s, Rev. John Flynn, who knew something about the health of people in the bush, wrote that we would have to render an account one day.


Congress call: Put full-time police back at bottle-shops
There is a groundswell of awareness about the use of methamphetamine (Ice) at a community level throughout Australia.
Most people seem to have direct or anecdotal experience of families being tragically affected, but if it was better understood that ‘for every person who uses methamphetamine in a year there are 85 drinking alcohol;for every person addicted to methamphetamine there are 20 addicted to alcohol;for every ambulance call-out for methamphetamine problems there are 25 for alcohol;for every methamphetamine presentation to an Emergency Department there are 30 for alcohol;for every amphetamine-related death there are 65 alcohol deaths’ (source: Emeritus Professor Ian Webster, Foundation for Alcohol Research and Education newsletter 2/2/18), the alcohol problem confronting communities in the NT might be considered more seriously.


THE TROLL by Blair McFarland
Thanks for this, Blair. As Monty Python would have it, say no more.


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